whats with DC getting shafted here?

also should post Hogan & Hartson. No memo, but reported by law.com as mentioned in another comment

Continuing the only-NY trend...Not good, not good.

I think it's time that DC & LA associates start complaining to their partners...

I am sure the W&C associates in DC love the fact that they are making $25,000 less than their NY counterparts.

what makes you think DC and LA associates deserve the NY-level pay?

What's the word on Hogan?

And what did DC get?

DC got hosed!

W&C DC is at 145, not 135. That said, DC should march to 160. It's about recruitment.

maybe the DC assocs got a separate memo...hopefully thats the case.

W&C DC also doesn't give bonuses, so if one assumes the 30K bonus is here to stay, first-year DC Skaddenites get total comp of $190, while W&C 1Ls are pulling down $145 total. That's a slap in the face!

"what makes you think DC and LA associates deserve the NY-level pay?"

I assure you, at 11 last night (after at least two weeks, including weekends, of 11 every night), DC associates begin to get odd thoughts in their heads about billing that many hours and paying several thousand dollars a month for 600 square feet, not including parking.

10:51

I don't think they necessarily deserve the exact same thing as NY, but give me a break. Just two years ago, all firms were at $125,000 and market differences were made through bonuses (NY associates have always gotten bigger bonuses).

Are you trying to tell me that the same Ivy League first year associate in DC or LA isn't close to the same value as the same person in NY?

A $10K or $15K difference is one thing, but when the disparity becomes so large that it's $25,000 and up, DC is going to start losing associates to NY.

Hogan & Hartson is raising in NY but not in DC (yet). The info appears in this article:

http://www.law.com/jsp/dc/PubArticleDC.jsp?id=1169632952916&hub=TopStories

(I'm trying to post it on the main page, but our technical difficulties have returned...)

I just finished Jack Welsh's book. One of his "winning" answers is to advertize on ATL the same month as an S&C harassment scandal, and NY law firm raises.

Smart guy, apparently...

So let me get this straight b/c I still can't believe my firm hasn't matched yet (crossing fingers).H&H, W&C, and Morgan, Lewis have all matched today? H&H and MLB memos are forthcoming I take it? Debevoise, Cravath, CC, helloooo??

Every firm in DC (that isn't a NY outpost) is waiting for someone else to make a move. Who will it be? A Chicagoan like Kirkland? A westcoaster like Latham? C'mon, bust this shit open!

LeBoeuf?

Williams and Connolly matched.

Any chance a firm like DPW or CSM will come over the top to 170k?

I wonder about LeBoeuf, too

I wonder about LeBoeuf, too

Miami W&C associates make a measly 125K, that's 35k less than NY. Have you SEEN real estate prices in Miami lately? That's why I'm going to Weil in Miami.

Williams & Connolly matched in DC? Or, are they being confused for White & Case, which matched in NY (both W&C)?

Miami W&C associates make a measly 125K, that's 35k less than NY. Have you SEEN real estate prices in Miami lately? That's why I'm going to Weil in Miami.

No, DC's own Williams & Connolly.

Seriously, what's with looking down your noses at associates in DC and Cali, these are your same ivy league classmates here..it's about recruiting. when I started law school it was 125K across the board, had I known this would happen I might have interviewed more with NY offices of the firms that I had callbacks at and maybe gotten YOUR job.

True. Why would anyone in Miami choose White & Case or Greenberg when salaries at Weil are tens of thousands of dollars higher? Weil is going to get flooded with resumes from associates wanting to jump ship.

True. Why would anyone in Miami choose White & Case or Greenberg when salaries at Weil are tens of thousands of dollars higher? Weil is going to get flooded with resumes from associates wanting to jump ship.

Did Williams and Connelly actually raise DC associates to 160 starting? If so, how did you find out? Any memo or numbers to post?

Thanks!

Also, isn't Williams and Connolly generally above DC market because they don't do bonuses?

Also, isn't Williams and Connolly generally above DC market because they don't do bonuses?

let's here more about this Williams and Connolly raise. That would be the first DC-based firm to make the move so far, right?

I think it's possible people are confusing Williams & Connolly (W&C) with White & Case (W&C). What time did the W&C memo go out?

Sorry confused myself there a bit...I think it's possible people are confusing Williams & Connolly (W&C) with White & Case (W&C). What time did the official White & Case memo go out?

If Williams & Connolly (DC) actually raised, can someone please send Lat the memo?

Lat, can we have an open thread to get comments more centralized?

I'm not confusing White and Case and Williams and Connolly. Every Williams and Connolly associate received a voice mail this morning informing them of the increases. As far as I know, there has not been and will not be a memo.

"W&C DC also doesn't give bonuses, so if one assumes the 30K bonus is here to stay, first-year DC Skaddenites get total comp of $190, while W&C 1Ls are pulling down $145 total. That's a slap in the face! "

Bull S**t, White & Case DC associates get bonuses!!!

Can we get corroboration from a Williams and Connolly associate that they have indeed gone to 160k?

any news on orrick or akin gump? help a law student (future 2007 summer associate) out.

12:29: that comment that you quote was referring to Williams and Connolly. They don't give bonuses.

"W&C DC also doesn't give bonuses, so if one assumes the 30K bonus is here to stay, first-year DC Skaddenites get total comp of $190, while W&C 1Ls are pulling down $145 total. That's a slap in the face!"

I believe that was about Williams, not White and Case.

any word on Gibson?

Umm, Akin Gump is not competitive with Orrick. As a future summer associate you should not be deciding between the two.

anyone else wondering where Cravath is?

anybody got any info on Bingham McCutchen?

well, it is certainly reassuring see that the first year associates, working so hard on the job from 7am-11pm, are still able to balance life by commenting on a blog during working hours...

maybe I will walk down the hall and see what my first years are doing on their computers right now...

Cravath needs to come out at 170. The truly "top" firms need to distance themselves from the pack, as it seems even the Legal Aid Society in NYC will be able to match 160.

we're obsessively refreshing this blog to see if you're going to make our hours worth it or whether we need to start planning our exit strategies, ya cheapskate.

NY DA's office just went to 160.

Clifford Chance matched

Clifford Chance matched

i meant bingham in boston

any word on Ropes or Gibson?

Anyone know anything about Boston?

i meant bingham in boston

i meant bingham in boston

Anyone know anything about Boston?

Anyone know anything about Boston?

Does this raise apply in general across the board to summers or does it depend on each firm (mainly Weil)

any word on king and spalding, nyc?

Does this apply to summers across the board or does it depend on each firm (wondering about Weil)?

"Umm, Akin Gump is not competitive with Orrick. As a future summer associate you should not be deciding between the two."

Not sure what you're trying to say here, but Akin has not matched yet but partners have discussed it and word is it's in the works.

"Umm, Akin Gump is not competitive with Orrick. As a future summer associate you should not be deciding between the two."

Not sure what you're trying to say here, but Akin has not matched yet but partners have discussed it and word is it's in the works.

law students are so friggin stupid.

yes, the raises will all apply to the summer classes as well.

Chances are if you have not heard about firm x or firm y, then there IS NO WORD about firm x or firm y. Stop asking us for information and start getting us some.

Anonymous at 1:27:

Ha! I agree.

anon 1:24: do you work at Akin? What is your source?

law students are so friggin stupid.

yes, the raises will all apply to the summer classes as well.

Has anyone heard anything about the mighty Wachtell?

has any one heard about 1-800-LAWYERS? Did they go to $160k? trying to make my summer decision...

JACOBY & MEYERS MATCHED!!!!!!!

what about kirkland.... shouldnt they have to raise their chicago salary at least to 145k

"anon 1:24: do you work at Akin? What is your source?

Yes, I work here.

what about kirkland.... shouldnt they have to raise their chicago salary at least to 145k

JACOBY & MEYERS MATCHED!!!!!!!

JACOBY & MEYERS MATCHED!!!!!!!

We have heard a lot about associate raises. Does anyone have any info on special counsel compensation?

We have heard a lot about associate raises. Does anyone have any info on special counsel compensation?

When the F is L&W going to match this $160 level? This is ticking me off.

We have heard a lot about associate raises. Does anyone have any info on special counsel compensation?

We have heard a lot about associate raises. Does anyone have any info on special counsel compensation?

I'm going to be a summer associate and I want more than 160. Base should be at least 200 in NY. Obviously only one firm has to raise and the rest will (eventually) follow. Maybe that's what Wachtell is going to do. Wouldn't that be nice.

We have heard a lot about associate raises. Does anyone have any info on special counsel compensation?

Sidley Austin?

Any word on Chicago-based firms?

any word on chicago-based firms, like mayer, brown or katten?

I would love to see one memo honestly say ' we would have been happy to pay you the same or less as we did last year but since it seems like we are painted into a corner with everyone else raising or about to raise salaries, we have no choice for purposes of prestige, recrutiing and retention but to do the same, goddamn STB. you better be f*!$g grateful because we didnt get treated like this when we were associates...oh, yah, and thanks for the hard work, better be even harder now"

I would love to see one memo honestly say ' we would have been happy to pay you the same or less as we did last year but since it seems like we are painted into a corner with everyone else raising or about to raise salaries, we have no choice for purposes of prestige, recrutiing and retention but to do the same, goddamn STB. you better be f*!$g grateful because we didnt get treated like this when we were associates...oh, yah, and thanks for the hard work, better be even harder now"

We have heard a lot about associate raises. Does anyone have any info on special counsel compensation?

We have heard a lot about associate raises. Does anyone have any info on special counsel compensation?

Could someone from Sullivan fill all of us in on what their new payscale is? What's up with the 310k for 1998? Does that mean a higher payscale for other mid-level and senior associates as well?

what about Latham, & Watkins, Baker & McKenzie, and California firms, like Orrick?

what about Latham, & Watkins, Baker & McKenzie, and California firms, like Orrick?

Does anyone know how the new associate raises affect special counsel compensation?

What about Proskauer and Chadbourne?

Prior to this recent wave of increases, many of the higher end mid-size 'boutique' firms were on the following pay schedule:

Class / 2007 Base Salary
2006 $135,000
2005 $145,000
2004 $155,000
2003 $170,000
2002 $185,000
2001 $210,000
2000 and earlier are out of lock-step

The way such mid-size boutiques have been responding is by increasing by $10k for classes of 2006, 2005 and 2004 and by $15k for classes of 2003, 2002 and 2001 each time the big firms have bumped up over the past year or so.

Law Offices of Larry H. Parker just matched!!

Hogan DC

2006 -145
2005 -155
2004 -170
2003 -190
2002 -210
2001 -225
2000 -240
99 and up -250

White & Case DC was making $135 and NOT the $145 that one of the posters suggested. I suspect that they'll go to $150 after a whining and kvetching period.