Ty Clevenger and Shanetta Cutlar: How It All Went Down
Earlier this week, we shared with you what we've heard about Ty Clevenger and Shanetta Cutlar.
To recap, Clevenger was a lawyer in the Special Litigation Section of the DOJ's Civil Rights Division. He worked under Cutlar, the Chief of the Section. We wrote:
[Clevenger] had some issues with Cutlar and how she ran the Section. Last fall, Clevenger sent a letter to Deputy Attorney General Paul J. McNulty. Clevenger alleged that Cutlar -- whom he described as "extremely intelligent" and "very charming," but also "a Jekyll and Hyde personality" -- created an "atmosphere of fear and paranoia" within the Section.On October 4, 2006, Ty Clevenger sent his letter to McNulty. Clevenger's office was searched overnight, and he was fired the next day. He is in the process of filing a whistleblower complaint.
This is what we had heard, from reliable sources; but it struck us as rather odd, almost fishy. It's just not consistent with what we know about federal government service. As a federal government lawyer, you can do all sorts of things -- e.g., write a saucy, pseudonymous judicial gossip blog -- and still part ways with your office voluntarily (and on good terms). In the rare cases when government lawyers are fired or asked to resign, events usually unfold at a glacial rather than breakneck pace (unless there is, say, compelling evidence of criminal conduct).
So we reached out to Ty Clevenger himself, by email. He happily responded to our questions. He verified the sequence of events: his sending of the letter to McNulty, followed almost immediately by his being asked to leave.
We asked Clevenger this question:
"Exactly how did the search of your office and the firing go down? It seems rather shocking for a government lawyer to be fired so quickly, especially after sending a letter of complaint to the DAG. It seems like basically a recipe for trouble for the people behind the firing."
Ty Clevenger's response to our query, after the jump.
Clevenger answered our question as follows:
You've asked the million-dollar question (no pun intended -- punitives will be limited to $300K), and I'm really not sure of the answer. I hope to learn more when DOJ responds to my FOIA requests.As for the sequence, I e-mailed the letter to the DAG around 10 a.m. on 10/4 and left work around 6 or 6:30 that evening. The next morning, I noticed my desk drawers had been left open, and the contents had been shuffled around. Shanetta had a reputation for searching the offices, e-mail, etc. of her enemies, and I figured she was just jerking my chain.
About 3:30 p.m., Shanetta called me into her office, where an HR person and two lawyers from the Employment Section were waiting. She said she had previously told me my performance was unacceptable (never any specifics and never anything in writing), and she said I could resign or be terminated. I said I would resign.
If these events are ever turned into a feature film, this next scene is the Oscar clip for the actor who portrays Ty Clevenger:
The HR lady read through her standard script, then said she thought that covered everything. I told her I had something to say (and yes, I remember this verbatim):"An old Army colonel told me many years ago that everybody is a sinner, but some folks are just downright evil. Shanetta, you are downright evil, and one of these days God is going to judge you for it."
She said something about that just confirming her assessment of me, and I got up to walk out. As I left, I told her I would see her on Judgment Day. That felt good. Really good.
And yes, you can quote me on anything above.
Thanks, Ty!
Earlier: Prior coverage of the Special Litigation Section under Shanetta Cutlar (scroll down)












Comments
So what is Ty doing now?
Posted by: That guy | January 12, 2007 03:47 PM
Shanetta sounds like a diva to the extreme, but as far as I can tell from talking to people at the Civil Rights Division, Shanetta's section is one of the few still allowed to enforce civil rights laws during the Bush administration. I mean, when was the last time you heard about the voting rights section actually helping out anyone?
I bet the congressional committee might find her a little unprofessional, but the Democrats will like that the diva in extremus is able to deal with Bush political appointees and actually enforce some civil rights laws.
Posted by: a necessary diva? | January 12, 2007 03:57 PM
"A necessary diva": Good point, and one of the more solid defenses of Cutlar so far.
She may not win "Miss Congeniality", but she's doing her job. She has been honored for her job performance:
http://www.theiacp.org/awards/CivilRights/2005civilwinners.htm
Even Ty Clevenger admits that she's "extremely intelligent":
http://www.abovethelaw.com/2007/01/doj_diva_of_the_day_shanetta_y.php#more
Look, people: "To make an omelet, you have to break some eggs."
Posted by: Anonymous | January 12, 2007 04:14 PM
That parting remark by Ty was remarkably poor judgment that's going to count against him if he really is going to bring litigation. DOJ will claim that the poor performance evaluation reflected insubordination, that his memo outside of appropriate channels reflected further insubordination that made his continuing at DOJ out of the question, and here he is admitting to just plain rude insubordination.
Nor especially good judgment. Young rude white male anti-gay Christian vs. senior black female career staffer who specializes in office maneuvering? That's a political mismatch if ever there was one.
What with the pronouncements of good and evil, he's also not especially humble before the Lord, whom I picture on Judgment Day to look a lot like Shanetta Y. Cutlar.
Posted by: Anon | January 12, 2007 04:32 PM
Yeah, I was sympathetic for Ty until googling his name and discovering that he's a homophobe.
Posted by: Reader | January 12, 2007 05:11 PM
Looks like Shanetta has organized her response team. Gotta go nuclear: Racist! Homephobe! The sky is falling! BTW, who raised race as an issue here?
Posted by: Anon | January 12, 2007 06:11 PM
God looks like Shanetta Y. Cutlar? Her minions have arrived indeed. And everybody gets to say nasty things anonymously. How convenient.
Posted by: another anon | January 12, 2007 06:14 PM
Um, I don't see anything homophobic anywhere.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 12, 2007 07:06 PM
Let's see... abuser, many complaints. Nothing being done. Accusers discredited. Abuser protected. Is the DOJ run by the Catholic church? Yoo-hoo, DOJ management?
Mr Clevenger, go for it.
Do you have a blog?
Posted by: Enough | January 12, 2007 11:08 PM
Mr Clevenger, go for it.
Posted by: It is about time | January 13, 2007 12:36 AM
I'm skeptical about the timing of all this. If things transpired as Ty suggests, then there are two options: either (1) it just so happened that Shanetta moved against Ty the day after he send his "letter" (email?) to Paul McNulty, or (2) McNulty tipped Shanetta immediately about the email. The first is improbable and the second seems inconsistent with how the government operates. So here's a third possibility, one I find more likely: Shanetta was going to can Ty before the letter, and told him as much; then he sends the letter; then he gets fired. Nowhere does Ty actual SAY that he had no forewarning---he does note that he had forewarning of the bad performance report, and the "no specifics" could simply mean no specifics regarding what performance was poor, rather than what the consequences of such poor performance would be. In other words, Ty's letter may simply have been in response to Shanetta's firing him, and although Ty has implied otherwise, he has not actually said that his letter was an independent event.
Posted by: Sleepy | January 13, 2007 01:44 AM
There have to be some people familiar with retaliation claims here who can give their two cents on this. Even if sleepy's facts are right, you would think there'd be some record -- ie, a letter to Ty saying "Buddy, you were ALREADY fired when you sent that letter." How do employers deal with such scenarios?
Posted by: Anonymous | January 13, 2007 09:00 AM
For the record, I had no forewarning about termination. The attorney who was fired 10 months before me did have a warning. It does seem unusual that an attorney would be fired so quickly (though I had only been there 13 months and was still on probation), which is why I filed the FOIA request. BTW, DOJ has not responded even though the response date already has passed.
Posted by: Ty Clevenger | January 13, 2007 12:48 PM
When it comes to "what goes around comes around" Ms. Cutlar will surely get hers. There are steps that have to be taken before anyone is terminated from their position in the federal government and it appears Ms. Cutlar has truly shorten those steps to benefit herself. She is truly acting like a very spoiler and jealous child. I am sure, real justice will be served against madame Cutlar. Kudos to Mr. Clevenger and stay strong.
Posted by: Timing is everying | January 14, 2007 01:24 AM
Well, Ty's response is good enough for me. That's very odd, especially since I can't imagine what would impel someone to immediately leak a complaint like that. It's an HR nightmare waiting to happen. Maybe it really was random. Good luck with the FOIA request --- keep us posted.
Posted by: Sleepy | January 14, 2007 08:21 PM
Law question: if Shanetta denied knowledge of the complaint letter, and there is no evidence in record that she knew of it, can her firing be deemed retaliatory? Will it survive SJ motion? Or can you infer knowledge from firing immediately following the letter?
Posted by: Anonymous | January 14, 2007 09:02 PM
uh, hello, the Civil Rights Division is responsible for prosecuting two boarder patrol agents who shot a fleeing Mexican drug smuggler in the butt. DOJ gave the smuggler full immunity to testify against the agents. So, I wouldn't say the Civil Rights Division under the Bush Administration doesn't do anything for anybody, they are protecting the citizens of Mexico.
Posted by: USC | January 16, 2007 10:17 AM
In regard to the poster USC's comment on the DOJ prosecuting the Border Patrol agents in Texas...
The comment lays claim that the Civil Rights Division prosecuted the two agents. The simple fact needs to be clarified that the Civil Rights Division did not prosecute the two agents. The prosecution was decided on by a female assistant U.S. Attorney in the Western District of Texas, a career DOJer who may very likely have been a holdover from the Clinton administration.
Posted by: Wm. (Bill) D. Hodges | January 17, 2007 10:32 AM
It order to bring a prosecution like that, you need AG -- funny, AG the AG -- approval, and the Chain my friend for this type of case . . . it goes through the Criminal Section of the Civil Rights Division up through the AAG, Assoc, DAG and then the AG. You think this happen in a vaccum? Something this politically sensitive?
Posted by: USC | January 18, 2007 02:46 PM
Cutlar's awards and otherwise competence be damned! If you can't get away in the private sector with breaking federal employment laws and use "but I produce results!" as a defense, why should she be able to?
Posted by: South Florida Libertarian | January 20, 2007 04:32 PM
Ty is a homophobe?!??? ...this can't be. Shanetta had it coming...
Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2007 10:29 PM
I don't know Clevenger or Cutlar from a a can of paint but it seems there is a cross-cultural dynamic going on, in addition to whatever personal animus. Cutlar likely didn't chew out the intern because she failed to address the boss-lady; she likely was chastised for not speaking to Cutlar whether she knew Cutlar was the boss or not. In Af-Am circles, it is considered a slight not to greet someone when you first cross paths with them, regardless of their standing. I can't say for sure but if the intern was not Af-Am, she might not have realized that many black executives are sensitive to perceived slights to the boss -- it is the intern's business to know who the boss is -- and to any rank-and-file Af-Am in the organization. Moral: don't just say hello because the black lady is the boss; say hello to whomever is in the hallway with you. As for the paper-clip, if there was an announced policy about the use binder clips vs paper clips and this person habitually violated the policy, you can imagine the violator would be upbraided. We don't have enough facts to judge whether Cutlar's response was too harsh. Not to attack Clevenger or undermine his acusations but all of this will need to be described (likely in depositions ad nausem) before the full picture is clear. Finally, no one needs to introduce the "race" issue. It is fallacy to treat it like a card being played. Race was present as soon as Clevenger joined Cutlar's unit. Like it or not, America is not used to the ways of Af-Am women; high-functioning women like AKAs (if you don't know, look it up) and other such are not to be trifled with so do your research. That relationship (Cutlar = boss, Clevenger = subordinate) presents an inverted social dynamic, to say the least, particularly in a Republican administration. No one should be shocked that Cutlar, who joined DOJ during the Clinton administration, and Clevenger, an apparent right-wing Bush appointee, are like oil and water.
Posted by: EQ | January 31, 2007 03:19 PM