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Sullivan & Cromwell v. Charney: Quotes of the Day (Part 3)

H Rodgin Cohen 2 Chairman Aaron B Charney Aaron Brett Charney Sullivan Cromwell Above the Law Above the Law Above the Law ATL legal tabloid legal blog.JPGThis is the third post in our post-hearing coverage of Sullivan & Cromwell v. Charney. Our prior posts are available here and here.

In this post, we collect our favorite quotations from our morning at 60 Centre Street, New York Supreme Court. Here they are:

Before the hearing:

"Uh-oh, it's the big guy!"

-- Daniel Alterman of Alterman & Boop (Charney's counsel), greeting Charles Stillman, counsel to Sullivan & Cromwell (and an eminence grise of the New York bar)

"You -- you -- you f***ed up!"

-- Dan Alterman, greeting your undersigned blogger

Presumably he didn't like this post very much. But he said the remark in good-natured fashion.

A few seconds later, after he had walked past us, he turned around and said (jokingly and within the earshot of about half a dozen people, so we feel okay in reporting it):

"And that was on background. Deep background!"

He also defended his fashion choices, pointing out the monogramming on his sleeve:

"My tie is clean. My wife dressed me this morning. My initials are on my shirt!"

Quotes from during and after the hearing, after the jump.

During the hearing:

There were eight lawyers in the well of court, and multiple attorneys were often speaking at the same time. Like a schoolteacher presiding over a rowdy classroom, Justice Bernard Fried frequently had to assert control over the proceedings:

"NO INTERRUPTIONS. This is not a jury trial. I have all the time in the world to give to this matter. We will deal with this in an orderly fashion."

He also got a little snarky at times. Here's what he said to Herbert Eisenberg, counsel to Charney, concerning certain S&C documents Justice Fried ordered returned to the firm (with photocopies to be made and then filed with the Court, under seal):

"If you have concerns about spoliation [i.e., document tampering], you can walk with the documents [over to Sullivan & Cromwell], and stand by the photocopier as they are being duplicated."

Eisenberg did not take Justice Fried up on that offer to babysit the documents during duplicating.

Like any good plaintiffs' lawyer, Daniel Alterman managed to work comments about the merits of the case into procedural and discovery-related discussions:

"After he complained, [Aaron Charney] went from being the greatest fourth-year associate in the world to a bum, and they made him do things I don't even want to say."

Maybe you don't want to talk about them, Dan. But we're happy to listen!

As noted, Charles Stillman of Stillman Friedman & Shechtman, who represents S&C in this matter, is a distinguished elder statesman of the New York bar. But he can get pretty snide when he wants to:

"I tried to reach [one of Herb Eisenberg's colleagues], who was on a very nice vacation...."

Maybe Charles Stillman could use "a very nice vacation" of his own. Is he getting burned out? Later on in the hearing, he had a "senior moment," referring to Dan Alterman as follows:

"This gentleman, whose name just flashed out of my mind..."

By the way, we like that Dan Alterman. We interpret this quote of his, explaining his skittishness at talking about the most recent settlement discussions between the parties, as a shout-out to Above the Law:

"There are members of the community who may be reporting on this, and I don't want to violate the non-disclosure agreement [with respect to the "secret settlement meeting"]."

"Members of the community"? Might that be us?

All the talk about Aaron Charney's hard drive brought out the "unfrozen caveman judge" in Justice Fried. When the issue Charney / S&C emails sitting on Hotmail and/or RCN servers was raised, he declared:

"My six-year-old granddaughter is more computer literate than I am."

Discovery can be tricky for the parties, too. C'mon, Mr. Alterman -- tell us what you want, what you really really want:

"Can we deal with discovery AFTER the dispositive motions?"

[Confers with Herb Eisenberg and Laura Schnell, who have been fidgeting conspicuously, then returns to address Justice Fried.]

"Now I'm told that I DON'T want discovery stayed."

[Laughter.]"

No worries, folks. Justice Fried has a solution to all your discovery problems:

"I have a form. You like my form? You can use my form."

(Okay, maybe this is one of those "you had to be there" moments.)

Finally, here's a moment that almost brought us to our feet, cheering. From Justice Fried, denying Charles Stillman's oral motion for entry of a gag order forbidding the parties or their counsel from talking to the media:

"I never issue a gag order unless it is fully briefed and on notice to the other party."

WHACK!!! You may be one of New York's most distinguished lawyers, Mr. Stillman. But it sounds like you got bench-slapped!

After the hearing:

We were approached by Zachary Fasman of Paul Hastings (S&C's counsel), who cordially introduced himself, then said:

"I won't answer any of your emails. But they do make me laugh."

As the gathering was breaking up, we overheard this proclamation from Dan Alterman:

"I've come up with a ballpark figure for the billable hours spent here. About $47,000."

This struck us as an attempt by Alterman to send a message to S&C: "C'mon, guys, let's just settle this thing -- so we can get back to representing our other clients."

We view Alterman's fee estimate as a bit high. We counted about ten lawyers for S&C and four for Aaron Charney. The hearing ran for about an hour. Even assuming that every lawyer was billing $1,000 an hour, we don't get anywhere close to $47K.

(But pehaps Alterman was factoring in preparation time, travel time, etc. He was clearly offering just a "back of the napkin" guesstimate.)


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Why would Fasman want to settle when he and Bloom can bill $15,000 a day on this?

First

David: Good work.

Now, please get back to work and get us more goodies.

Alterman hit the nail on the head. Fasman is running up the bills. See I told you so. I told you so. Nah nah nah. Even a tier 2 guy like me can see that simple truth.

Loyola 2:

Poop you

Were Gallion & Spielvogel, the estemmed barristers, at the hearing?

"I never issue a wgwag order unless it is fully briefed and on notice to the other party."

This isn't scrappleface, you "first" morons.

I didn't write the 2:25 post.

It's silly for lawyers to run up bills to go to "court." Litigators have no business going there because there might be costs. Fasman should open up his big heart, stop duping a client as legally unsophisticated as S&C, and offer young Aaron some money to move on with his life.

That's just my opinion, but I go to a tier 2 school, which I blame for my inability to get a real [summer] job.

Alterman & "Boop," eh?

http://www.worth1000.com/web/media/279465/bettyboop-(21).gif

Didn't know she was a lawyer....

I didn't write the 2:34 post either

Loyola 2L

Hey there are imposters impostering me

The fake Loyola 2Ls are better writers and more intelligent than the real one.

Actually, I did write the 2:34 post, but I did NOT write the 2:16 post or the 2:25 post.

Stop picking on me just because I go to a tier 2 school.

Loyola 2L

Where are the pictures??????

I... am Spartacus. I... am Spartacus. I... am Spartacus. ad nauseum.

Maybe we all just need some education about Tier 2. I googled "tier 2" and came across the following:

Common Myths About Tier 2

MYTH: You can get Tier 2 even if you use condoms.

FACT: Condoms protect against all but the most virulent forms of Tier 2. Individuals should consult with their physicians regarding the best ways to protect against intra-partner Tier 2 transmission.


MYTH: Tier 2 will make you go blind.

FACT: Tier 2 alone will not make you go blind. However, Tier 2 has been correlated with a high incidence of running with scissors which, acting in concert with Tier 2, may result in blindness.


MYTH: I'll know if I have Tier 2.

FACT: Although Tier 2 is often associated with symptoms of general malaise, incessant whining, poor job prospects, and dimwittedness, it may show no symptoms at all in its initial stages. By contrast, individuals in the early stages of Tier 2 report feelings of unfounded optimism and hope. Scientific studies reveal that between the early and advanced stages of Tier 2, infected individuals are often the source of bits of scrap paper they refer to as "resumes." Scientists continue to investigate this odd paper-wasting behavior.


2:39

lavi soloway's blog's got pics

Lat's blog would have pictures, but he left his cables at home, and backwards New York City don't got no fancy high falutin teknawlowgy like computah cables.

For the record, there are people here who are pretending to be me.

http://uva.facebook.com/event.php?eid=2233547316&ref=mf

For the record, I don't actually attend Loyola - I'm at PCL.

As Loyola 2L (2:47 PM) notes, I forgot the cables I need to transfer photographs to my laptop. I'll post the photos tomorrow, after I return to DC.

This is just as well. Posting tomorrow will give me time to select, resize, and caption the pictures properly. I took a TON of them.

In the meantime, as I mentioned in an earlier post, check out the photos of Lavi Soloway's blog:

http://lavisoloway.blogspot.com/

On second thought, my 2:52 pm comment should be off the record.

The rest of my photos will be up in about 30 min.

I think we should all post as Loyola 2L. Although it does make it more difficult to know which comments to skip...

It wouldn't matter if you actually "physically" skip my comments because you "psychologically" skip them (i.e. you discount them immediately because I am a tier 2)

David--Where's the promised fashion commentary?

Hotmail is not a very prestigious email service.

For your viewing pleasure, ABC v S&C v ABC in Pictures is now up on my blog. Go to main post on today's hearing and scroll down to 4:11 p.m. update. (Keep in mind, I'm not a professional photographer.) I'll post the rest of them this evening.

Wow! Comparing his firm's website to today's pictures, it looks like Mr. Alterman shaved his beard for the occasion.

I'm sure there's a hysterical double entendre that could be made, but I'm too unfunny/afraid to make it.

Please stop using my name!

I thought Lat said he would write about the fashion at this hearing.

It seems Lat doesn't think all State Judges are icky.

David - please post fashion commentary. More info about the suits people were wearing, por favor!!