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Brokeback Lawfirm: Aaron Charney's Doing Just Fine, Thank You

Aaron Charney 2 headshot Aaron B Charney Aaron Brett CharneyIn response to our earlier request for information about how plaintiff Aaron Charney is supporting himself while his discrimination and retaliation case against Sullivan & Cromwell goes forward, we received a VERY interesting tip:

"I don't have specific knowledge but I lived on Charney's freshman dorm floor at Georgetown (he left after only one semester, transferring to a community college in Syracuse and then Syracuse University and later Brown)."

"His parents own Charney's, a men's clothing store in Manlius, NY, which I presume is quite successful. He received generous monthly checks from his parents and other relatives and I wouldn't be surprised if they're at least partially supporting him again now."

Great stuff. Our reactions:

1. Why did Aaron Charney leave Georgetown after just one semester? Very, very weird. Did he have some kind of "issues" while he was there?

2. Charney was at a community college for a while? ICK.

3. A correction to our tipster's report. Aaron Charney's family doesn't own just one successful men's clothing store, but a small chain of such stores -- as previously mentioned in Bob Kolker's profile. So we aren't surprised to hear that Charney comes from a well-off background.

4. Has anyone purchased clothing at a Charney's shop? What brands or labels do they carry? What is the shopping experience like? Is it the Barney's or Louis Boston of Syracuse?

Charney's Shop [Syracuse - Citysearch]


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where did charney go to high school?

and, is he not canadian after all?

I love you, Lat. These types of posts are why.

Living off of your parents is far from "doing fine." At least he's not going to get evicted though.

So what is the upcoming Brokeback law firm haering Lat mentioned about?

Come on now - even if you think Charney is wrong you have to realize that a lot of people transfer and that sometimes you take classes at other places to keep busy while you wait to start at a new place.

"Charney was at a community college for a while? ICK."

Such a tierist.

Who says he is living off his parents? I mean, maybe he has a trust or something. Does that mean anyone who is well off from family money is "living off their parents?"

Is Charney looking for a new job? He has to mitigate his damages.

This "ANONYMOUS TIPSTER" really has me wondering. I mean, I know a lot of kids who transferred who were in my Freshman dorm but I would hardly have known exactly where they went afterwards. this "Tipster" knows far too much detail if you ask me.

I've never been (thank God), but I suspect that Syracuse doesn't have the dandy population of gays and metrosexuals required to support a Barney's or Louis Boston.

2:52 is spot on here. I cannot even recall the names of people from Freshman year who were there for 2 semesters. To know where the guy attended after is kind of creepy. Who leaked this? a PR firm?

S&C would know Charney's education history since they have his resume . . .

I agree that the "tip"ster seems overly "in the loop," so-to-speak. What mere dormmate would know about Charney's "Brown transfer" ?

Also, when do we get a new Charney picture?

"Charney was at a community college for a while? ICK."

Jesus, what an assholey comment to make.

to 2.50

yes, of course, moron

money made through birth is no more earned than a welfare check

3:01, David's comment shows how little progress we've made in the fight against tierism.

Gotta love how this tipster claims to lack specific knowldge and then spills all kinds of stuff no dormmate could ever know or would even give a rat's butt about. I think S&C's peeps are the source. I am guessing that you would have to have Charney's transcript maybe to know about all this silliness about where he took classes and stuff.

He might of gone to Fayetteville-Manlius H.S.--I have a good friend who went there so I'll check with him.

"Who says he is living off his parents? I mean, maybe he has a trust or something. Does that mean anyone who is well off from family money is 'living off their parents?'" -2:50

Yes, in fact, that is what it means. If you're not supporting yourself, whether through your salary or your savings (from your previous salary), you're living off SOMEONE. If it's a trust your parents set up for you, then you're living off your parents.

to 2.50

yes, of course, moron

money made through birth is no more earned than a welfare check

nothing wrong with going to a CC for a while - it can make good economic sense (as long as you end up at a top 10 law school eventually)

I agree that the "tip"ster seems overly "in the loop," so-to-speak. What mere dormmate would know about Charney's "Brown transfer" ?

Also, when do we get a new Charney picture?

hey, community colleges exist so that people who attended state schools have targets of ridicule.


If Charney went to a CC for credits before going to brown then more power to him! Seriously. Especially is he is some trust fund baby.

I agree that the "tip"ster seems overly "in the loop," so-to-speak. What mere dormmate would know about Charney's "Brown transfer" ?

Also, when do we get a new Charney picture?

3:08 - You started off with a refreshing lack of tierist prejudice, only to end by showing your true tierist colors.

Where did we get this trust fund stuff? Selling neckties to upstate New Yorkers hardly makes you a DuPont.

I agree that the "tip"ster seems overly "in the loop," so-to-speak. What mere dormmate would know about Charney's "Brown transfer" ?

Also, when do we get a new Charney picture?

This latest thread actually makes me think of Charney is a good light. I mean you have to respect Charney for working hard in school and wanteing to make parter if it is the case that he's a rich kid.

Someone is very jealous of people with supportive families and thinks that trust funds are like welfare. That someone is a very jealous person apparently

"Charney was at a community college for a while? ICK."

Your snobbery is really disgusting. And the Barney's/store label comments - totally crass nouveau riche name dropping blather. Get a life.

charney went to jamesville-dewitt. his parent's stores are similar to louis boston.

Enough with this nonsense. What is the hearing about that Lat says he is attending? Anyone know?

Thank you 3:19. Why do we live in a world where a man is judged by the tier of his school?

only an ivy fag would diss community colleges

my brother went to one and I bet he gets more pussy in a week than you've ever had Lat

Loyola-

You're judged by your tier because it's a quick and public (though sometimes misleading) assessment of your IQ (i.e., intellectual worth).

And that's how most people like their judgments quick and public.

"my brother went to one and I bet he gets more pussy in a week than you've ever had Lat."

A very safe bet.

not so fast, pip. this is 3:19 and I'm an ivy fag too

my bad

pip and 3:19 - that exchange is how Charney should have dealt with the comments by Krautheimer.

Who says he is living off his parents? I mean, maybe he has a trust or something. Does that mean anyone who is well off from family money is "living off their parents?"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 11, 2007 02:50 PM

Are you fucking serious. You trustafarian assholes really are idiots.

Lat doesn't get pussy. He is gay. Duh

jamesville-dewitt, huh?

any idea what year he graduated?

Only a psycho or an out-of-control social clmber would go to *four* different colleges before graduating. I don't think the latter applies since the c.c. and Syracuse were both steps down from G'town; I'd guess the former.

of course charney comes from a well off background... that explains the ridiculous sense of entitlement.

I'm sure the shopping experience at Charney's is just FAAAAABULOUS!!!!

No way 4:01. Sometimes you don't want to be at the shcool you are at and you trandfer. Sometimes you have to take classes and bide time. Give us all a break

HUGE distinction:

Trust funds are typically created by individuals that create value, through innovation or hard work. If the individual was a business owner, then the wealth came from mutually beneficial, voluntary exchanges resulting in profits.

Welfare checks are created by force (via taxing the productive classes) and then distributed to the less productive elements of society.

love ya Libertarian 4:10. never change!!!!!

I'm going to point something out again because it's so relevant. Up above, 3:19 and pip had an exchange. Pip said something homophobic. 3:19 asked him to stop. Pip apologized.

Can we all agree that this is the proper way to handle comments like those made by Krautheimer, or anyone who makes homophobic comments?

Can we agree that you don't run to HR, then make a demand of $5M, then file a lawsuit over such comments?

libertarian

trust funds are not earned by the trust fund kid - i said nothing about the source

bet you're a lazy trust fund kid yourself

4:10--

why don't you just grow a pair and say black people?

"hey, community colleges exist so that people who attended state schools have targets of ridicule."

Hey, some state schools are pretty damn good. Eight of the top 25 universities in the world are state schools (and Berkeley's #4). [ http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006_Top100.htm ] Also, University of Toronto (which is #24) is also a public university (though most Canadian universities are.

As someone who went to community college after doing shitty is HS, I have no problem with Lat's comment. If you F up and have to go CC, suck it up and get out as soon as possible.

It's one thing if you're poor and can only afford the local CC until you've proven yourself. It's quite another to transfer from a popped-collar school like GTown to an upstate NY (ICK!) community college.

I bet he had a nervous breakdown after [deleted gay joke].

he did not go to jamesville-dewitt. he graduated from fayetteville-manlius in 1996.

Curious to know whether Charney ever fessed up to this stage of his life. He was probably the biggest school snob going.

4:46, your comment may have been well meaning, but you basically just called yourself an asshole for suggesting that black people are assumed by all to be the "less productive elements of society". Come on, between Kiwi and that other idiot, we've had enough of this shit for now already.

Re: suggestion S&C has ABC's resume and knows his CC past, I doubt it. What are the chance that ABC put anything other than Brown down for college. Zero.

6:32 you should know that law firms require transcripts and that admission to the Bar would require background info too.

His parents actually co-own Charney's and it is not like Louis Boston or Barney's. Syracuse could never support such stores. Charney's actually sells a wide range of clothing and has a large big and tall section. They sell anything from Levi's to suits.

6:36 - sure, but your resume doesn't, nor does a conversation with your S & C colleagues. Not saying one has to divulge all, but this dude strikes me as somebody who would lord his school over other people.

6:36

S&C doesn't require college transcripts nor does it receive what might be submitted to the Bar for admission.

idiots. state bar application information is kept confidential, and no law firm i am aware of requires an undergraduate transcript as a condition of employment.

7:30 - I remember during OCI that one firm (I can't remember which) required an undergraduate transcript (in addition to being in the top 5% of the class). I was at a lower-tiered law school at the time and, yet, still refused to submit my resume to the firm because it was, in my mind, a ridiculous request.

I know that the firm where I am now didn't require an undergraduate transcript.

Fuck you, Lat, and your assholey comment about community colleges. You are fast becoming an example of why Ivy schools suck ass.

Regardless, the whole Tipster from the Freshman dorm thing just makes no sense. No one could remember all that stuff. Not even the biggest loser.

wow that was a little harsh? Why impugn all ivy students b/c of Lat's Imus imitation?

"Ick" re community college, Lat? God you're an asshole. The funny thing is, you say that as if you have done SO well for yourself as an adult since getting into the ivy league as the child of ... DOCTOR PARENTS. Don't make me laugh.

Newsflash -- getting the Ivy degrees is only part of the battle. It's getting the degrees and NOT turning into a walking trainwreck / having a public nervous breakdown in the New Yorker by age 30 that's the real impressive achievement, FYI. But, clearly, you must have missed that that class at Yale law.

While Lat types masturbatory missives about community college and such, he's not reporting on the merits of the case.

He mentioned that an omnibus hearing date is comming up. He didn't mention what the motions are about. Seems that SullCrom filed a motion to dismiss the complaint based on Charney's alleged divulgence of client confidences therein. They cite to extensive precedent which states that similar cases have been dismissed when client confidences will be revealed.

Quote of the day from Zach Fasman's brief in support of their motion to dismiss, and citing the spoilation issue with the destroyed hard drive:

"...however his complaint is pleaded, Charney cannot be trusted to pursue his action in appropriate ways."

Go to the NYS Judiciary e-filing site to read the pleadings.

Damn, Lat, you really should have done a better job reporting on this.

Oh yeah, and this very blog figures somewhat prominently in said filings.

Lat, your readers have just scooped you.

It heartens me to see the backlash against David's execrably tierist bungle. It gives me hope that there are people, somewhere, who see me not as a tier 2 grad, but as a human being. A human being who deserves just as much of a chance at career happiness as a top school graduate.

But we can't stop here. David, a.k.a. the Don Imus of tierism, is a small player in the machine. We need to change things at the top. We need to mobilize against the tierist biglaw hiring partner, the tierist appeals court clerk, the tierist academic, that tierist wanna be actresses who stop going out with you when you reveal that you were fibbing when you said you went to Harvard Law School (how did she believe that any way? She knew I lived in Los Angeles.)

These are the people we need to get to. If you show the outrage you have shown here, one day we may see a legal profession where we can all get jobs, regardless of our school.

How do we get a copy of the latest filings?

Does anyone know what time the hearing before Justice Fried is scheduled to begin tomorrow?

Link to hearing time and latest filing. http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcivil/FCASMain

Just do a search for Aaron Charney.

To read the filings:

Go here:
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/mainframe.html

Select search by index number.

Charney v. S&C is 100625/2007

S&C v. Charney is 600333/2007

Next select "List Documents" and click on the links to each document you want to read to see it in PDF format.

In the S&C v. Charney docket, you will see a deposition excerpt where Charney admits leaking the confidential S&C performance review to the Wall Street Journal. Oops.

Of course, Lat should have had this stuff posted weeks ago, but he was too busy being tierist and jerking off to Charney's waxed eyebrows.

WGWIG give us a link to the filings.

I have been following the brokeback firm story through Lat's coverage and i'm believing Charney's story less and less.

Lets add this up.....So Aaron Charney transfered out of Gtown after a semester and then went on to go to four different colleges total. Then, as a 1L, he petitioned the administration concerning a bad grade he got because he believed that the professor was out to get him because he was a conservative and intentionally graded him down......

Although we do not yet know why Charney went to 4 colleges, i think most would agree that it is kind of strange. Also, as a law student myself, the thought of petitioning the administration as a 1L because you feel slighted about a grade....sounds pretty damn absurd.

So to me, its appears it is very possible that Charney has a victim's mentality, feeling that if anything bad happens to him, of course it had to have been someone else's fault or that he was being singled out. This type of suit is only actionable under a REASONABLE standard.....

thoughts?

Try this for the Charney depo excerpt:

http://tinyurl.com/2n5rtu

It doen't work WGWIG. Can you give us a link to the filing with numerous ATL references?

I apparently can't link directly to the document because it starts a unique session every time you log in.

Anyway, the brief with the ATL references is docket no. 17 in S&C v. Charney.

Also see docket no. 16, a snarky declaration by Klapper attaching copies of, inter alia, correspondence with Charney. Exhibit F is especially amusing, as it seems that Charney couldn't stop using that weird S&C "cascading" address style even though he was suspended from S&C.

In Charney v. S&C, see docket no. 13, the affidavit of Zach Fasman, attaching copies of posts from this very blog, and docket no. 15, S&C's motion to dismiss.

I'm tired from all this posting doing Lat's job for him, so I'm going to bed.

White Girls With Indian Guys!

Could yoy give step by step instructions? I can't get to the dockets.

TYIA

nm i see u did above

thanks wgwig i have access now

P.S. the docs WGWIG refers to aren't really interesting. There's sparse mention of ATL.

11:i agree entirely.. sounds like an entitled little drama queen.

"Charney was at a community college for a while? ICK."

Tierism is what makes the world go round and keeps "us" safe and warm at night, L2L

"Charney was at a community college for a while? ICK."

Tierism is what makes the world go round and keeps "us" safe and warm at night, L2L

From last month, istructions for how to access the documents in the Charney docket:

http://www.abovethelaw.com/2007/03/brokeback_lawfirm_selfserve_ch_1.php

I knew him at Brown...the allegation was that Georgetown was "anti-semetic" This made no sense to me, but then he apparently went to Syracuse then Brown. I never heard about the CC.

Charney graduated from Fayetteville Manlius HS in 1996.

It is true that he left Georgetown because he claimed that his roommate and others were anti-semetic.