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Biglaw Perk Watch: All Things Housing-Related

house home Abovethelaw Above the Law blog.jpgOops, we briefly dropped the ball on our continuing series about perks or fringe benefits provided by legal employers. In prior posts, we covered technology allowances, gym memberships, and marriage bonuses.

Recently a tipster asked us if any law firms out there would help him out with buying a house. We believe he was thinking in terms of financial assistance (e.g., a low-interest home mortgage).

We're not sure about that. But we do know that some law firms will help out associates with other real estate and housing-related matters, such as moving expenses and broker fees.

Here's an open thread for discussion of fringe benefits related to housing and real estate. Have at it!

Earlier: Prior ATL coverage of perks and fringe benefits (scroll down)

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1 Posted by First? | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:13 PM


First.

Just wanted to try this out. Not as great as I had hoped.

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2 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:14 PM

firssssssssssssstttttttttttttttttttttt@!#$%@!#$^!

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3 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:15 PM

Is it true that most NYC Biglaw firms will pay your brokers' fee?

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4 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:16 PM

My firm said I could live at the office if I wanted.

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5 Posted by anon | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:22 PM

S&C will lend up to $75k from CitiBank as a down payment. Loan is payable in 5 years and carries an interest rate of CibiBank's base rate + 1%.

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6 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:24 PM

12:22 -- very very interesting. Wonder if Charney took advantage of that to buy his fancy condo?

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7 Posted by Anonymous | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:25 PM

Morgan Lewis (NY) has negotiated a lower fee with two brokers and will reimburse moving expenses.

I've heard S&C has some program to help with a down payment when purchasing, but I'm not sure and haven't heard the details.

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8 Posted by Sidley | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:28 PM

Sidley has a "private banking" arrangement with a couple of big banks. Their programs are quite a bit more attractive than traditional lenders - - e.g., the bank services the loan itself, so it does not have the same "conforming" requirements; same interest rate for jumbo loans; etc.

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9 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:28 PM

Fried Frank will assign a real estate department associate to represent you in your closing. And another unrelated perk -- they'll also assign a Trusts & Estates associate to help you draft your will.

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10 Posted by Anonymous | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:29 PM

Davis Polk gives a 40k loan repayable in 5 years for a down payment.

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11 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:31 PM

12:28 - I believe that Wachtell will also provide you with a lawyer to handle your closing if you a buy a place.

(I don't know if they will provide a T&E person to draft your will though. That's nice! Even after you leave the firm, you have the benefit of that.)

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12 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:34 PM

Is that 40k loan from DPW interest-free?

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13 Posted by Mitchell Y. McDeere - Harvard | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:36 PM

Skip the NYC Biglaw scene and come down to Memphis! My new employer, Bendini, Lambert & Locke, hooked me up with a sweet mortgage. They're even encouraging me to start a family!

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14 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:36 PM

12:36, LOL. Best comment of the day so far.

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15 Posted by Wilford Brimley | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:45 PM

Mitch,

Get back to work. This is a waste of firm resources.

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16 Posted by anon | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:45 PM

Simpson Thacher also provides legal counsel in your closing.

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17 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:47 PM

Who the hell is B Clerker?

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18 Posted by 1st year | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:48 PM

Allen & Overy reimburses up to $3k for moving expenses and $3k for a broker's fee for incoming associates until 12/31 of your first year.

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19 Posted by Mitchell Y. McDeere - Harvard | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:55 PM

Wilford/Devasher: Yes, sir! Oh, hey, thanks for the marriage advice!

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20 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:09 PM

12:47, B Clerker is one of the other writers for ATL (along with Laurie Lin and Billy Merck).

But this seems like a Lat post. I bet that the byline is an error.

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21 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:24 PM

If you work in real estate, it is easy enough to find a title company to insure the title cheaply (which can be a fairly significant expense in some states)

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22 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:25 PM

Jones Day will provide a backstop guarantee for a bank loan for 25k to be used as a downpayment for a home.

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23 Posted by Anonymous | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:31 PM

12:24 - the DPW loan is at prime plus 1% (same as S&C) and also is through Citi. The firm guarantees the loan provided by Citi.

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24 Posted by anonymous | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:35 PM

The firms should just give a cash bonus for buying home, say $10,000. By encouraging their associates to take on more debt through such a subsidy and encouraging setting down roots in one city, the firms could get higher retention.

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25 Posted by Anonymous | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:37 PM

I think B Clerker took that great picture of Merck and his briefcase.

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26 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:39 PM

Balch & Bingham (Birmingham Atlanta DC) has a package similar to the Sidley one described at 12:28 with one of their regional banking clients.

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27 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:42 PM

Squire Sanders provides assistance with a home loan in Cincinnati, Ohio, but I'm not sure about the details.

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28 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:00 PM

At Sidley, there's enough work so you have no time to bother with commuting back and forth to some expense "house." The rest of you are real suckers!

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29 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:12 PM

2:00--WTF?

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30 Posted by Oh please | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:14 PM

Banks will provide the kind of financing described for the S&C for any big firm, usually they don't even require the firm to guarantee the loan. Chase and Citi love to do this, and if you're willing to just ask them, they'll go much lower than Prime + 100 bps.

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31 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:46 PM

2:14 makes a good point. There are a lot of benefits out there that you can get as long as you ASK. So don't be shy...

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32 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:49 PM

isn't the prime rate around 8.25%? why is 1%+ prime a good deal for anyone?

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33 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:24 PM

yeah, a 50,000 loan at 9% interest doesn't sound like much of a perk

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34 Posted by Fast Eddie P. | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:33 PM

Bang[el], Bang[el] & Bang[el] will help you walk like an Egyptian.

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35 Posted by Gogo Yubari | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:04 PM

You have to be willing to work in Asia (Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc.), but there are firms there that will usually pay your rent on top of NY salaries and bonus, up to around $5,000/month, plus throw in a COLA for hookers and blow to keep you working those crazy hours. If you can still manage to raise a family while spending that COLA, many firms will also pay for the kid(s)'s education at private international schools.

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36 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:10 PM

What's the deal with brokers fees in New York? It seems that to find a halfway decent place you have to go through a broker.

-- Will firms pick that up?

-- What about moving expenses?

-- Does it matter if I already live in New York (because I went to law school here)?

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37 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:04 PM

Cravath picks us brokers fees, I believe, and moving expenses.

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38 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:28 PM

5:04 - What's the COLA for hookers in Hong Kong? Can you find any that don't look *too* Asian?

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39 Posted by fdas | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:37 PM

6.28 - there are plenty of russians. Particularly in Macau

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40 Posted by Anon | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 8:10 PM

Gogo Yubari: What kind of work is that in Asia? I presume not litigation.

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41 Posted by Boingo | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:10 PM

Twang!!!!!

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42 Posted by guest | Permalink Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:43 PM

My firm pays for breast implants. The moral among male associates and partners is very high.

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43 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:07 AM

morale, even

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44 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:40 AM

July 17, 2007 12:28 PM

Fried Frank provides a junior know-nothing associate to work on your closing for free. However, they charge you their expenses (e.g., photocopies, faxes) at the same exorbitant rates they charge clients. You're better off hiring someone who does closings for a living. It runs more smoothly and costs about the same.

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45 Posted by Gogo Yubari | Permalink Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:57 PM

8:10 -- it's mostly corporate, securities and real estate, but there is some litigation/arbitration about. Hong Kong and Singapore, in particular, have become arbitration centers with all the torrid business activity in China.

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46 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:09 PM

Sidley will represent associates for free (up to 50 hours, I think) in the purchase of your first or second home.

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47 Posted by guest | Permalink Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:26 PM

DPW pays up to a $2500 brokers fee, which ends up being about half for your typical rental in NYC.

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48 Posted by BIGLAW CHEATS | Permalink Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:35 PM

Sidley will represent associates for free (up to 50 hours, I think) in the purchase of your first or second home.

Who is taking 50 hours to close title on a residential matter?

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49 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:36 PM

Cahill pays NOTHING for broker's fee. But will pay moving expenses, only if you're moving from somewhere other than tri state area to NYC.

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50 Posted by guest | Permalink Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:11 PM

i get $30 for dinner which I regularly exceed using the following comments "Its 10 Pm. And I'm fucking hungry--THATS WHY,"

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