Dewey & LeBoeuf: A Bunch of Nazis?
The firm of Dewey Ballantine was never known for being particularly PC. From a 2004 article by Anthony Lin, for the New York Law Journal:
Nearly one year after lawyers at Dewey Ballantine infuriated members of the Asian-American community by performing a stereotype-laden parody song at their annual dinner, the law firm is again dealing with allegations of racial insensitivity....On Monday, an employee sent a firmwide e-mail advertising the availability of some puppies for adoption. Douglas Getter, a London-based American who heads Dewey Ballantine's European mergers and acquisitions practice then sent a firmwide reply.
"Please don't let these puppies go to a Chinese restaurant!" Getter wrote in his e-mail.
Now Dewey has merged with LeBoeuf Lamb. Happily, it appears their firm cultures are a good match. Check out this email exchange appearing below -- and note that partner Stephen Best came from the LeBoeuf Lamb side of the marriage.
From: Ralph C. Ferrara
To: DL All Attorneys - US
Cc: Ferrara, Ralph C.
Sent: Mon Dec 17 11:00:29 2007
Subject: German Translation - CompletedDear All,
Thank you for your many quick responses [to a request for translation of a German document]. The translation has been completed.
Regards, Ralph
______________From: Stephen A. Best
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:02 AM
To: Ferrara, Ralph C.; DL All Attorneys - US
Subject: Re: German Translation - CompletedZieg Heil!!!!!!
Sent from my Blackberry Wireless Handheld
Oh, the perils of Blackberrying! If you respond to a firm-wide email on your Blackberry, be EXTRA careful about not hitting "reply all" (unless that is truly your intention).
Of course, the "Zieg Heil" response would have been inappropriate even if sent to a smaller group of recipients. As noted by Wikipedia, uttering the phrase "Sieg Heil" in Germany is "a criminal offence punishable by up to three years of prison."
Two emails of profuse apology, issued within an hour of the offending message, after the jump.
APOLOGY EMAIL FROM STEVEN DAVIS, CHAIR OF DEWEY & LEBOEUF
From: Veve, Valerie On Behalf Of Steven H. Davis
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:46 AM
To: DL All Attorneys - US
Subject: Email
I want to apologize on behalf of the firm for the email message that went out over our email system this morning. Dewey & LeBoeuf does not condone any type of offensive language or conduct, and we are sorry for this unfortunate experience. The firm will investigate the circumstances and take appropriate action.
Please do not hesitate to speak with your head of department, or call Janis Meyer, Nicholas Jelf or Jason Dinwoodie, if you would like to discuss this further.
APOLOGY EMAIL FROM STEPHEN BEST
From: Stephen A. Best
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:11 PM
To: DL All Attorneys - US
Subject: Apology
Dear Colleagues,
Sometimes we speak without thinking and embarrass ourselves in doing so. On occasion we do worse -- we hurt our friends and colleagues. My e-mail responding to Ralph's request for aid in a German translation was thoughtless and embarrassing to me and, unfortunately, hurtful to many of my friends and colleagues. I regret both the comment and the effect it has had on so many, especially during this holiday season. Given my many friends in the firm, common sense and my own Jewish heritage, I know that these are words that should have never been spoken or written. Hopefully, my earlier comments will not interrupt a joyous holiday season for all.
Sincerely,
Steve
Dewey Partner's E-Mail Causes Upset Over Racial Insensitivity [New York Law Journal]
Singing for Supper, Dewey Hits Bad Note [New York Post via NAAAP]












Comments
Premiere
Posted by: Premiere | December 17, 2007 01:14 PM
FIRST!!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:14 PM
is his statement offensive even if he's jewish?
Posted by: enlighten me | December 17, 2007 01:16 PM
The "my own Jewish heritage" was a nice touch.
Posted by: anon | December 17, 2007 01:17 PM
He was Jewish so it's OK. and i'm serious.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:17 PM
I feel kind of bad for the guy. That was pretty stupid, and if he wasn't a partner it would be a career killer.
He clearly needs to not be allowed to use email.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:18 PM
Way to go UT Law alums ...
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:19 PM
Zieg Heil!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:22 PM
I work at the offending institution, and all I have to say is, "Wow."
Posted by: Anon | December 17, 2007 01:23 PM
That's pretty amazing. I can't for a second imagine any of these things happening at my firm.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:25 PM
Amazing that someone inside D&L leaked this e-mail to Lat. As offensive as it is, leaking it shows no loyalty to the firm whatsoever.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:25 PM
I wonder how their partners in the Frankfort office felt about this.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:26 PM
1:17, Jews are not the only people who would find his comment offensive, as Jews were only one of many races of people put to death under the Nazi regime. Unless this guy has ancestors belonging to all of the groups who were persecuted by the Nazis, it's not "OK". Hell, even if he did, it's still not "OK".
What I don't find offensive, however, is the "Please don't let these puppies go to a Chinese restaurant!" email. Chinese people eat dogs from time to time. It's a fact. Some restaurants hang dead skinned puppies in their windows for crying out loud. If you find the practice of eating dogs to be offensive, that's one thing (and if that offends you, than stop doing it). But I can't see how it's offensive to point out that other people eat dogs, if, in fact, they do.
Nor can I see how it's offensive to call someone "nappy-headed" if, in fact, they have nappy hair (especially considering the term "nappy" is an acceptable -- read: not derogatory -- adjective to define such type of hair. But that's another story...
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:27 PM
Who are those words offensive to exactly? Germans? They were obviously tongue-in-cheek so it certainly wasn't offensive to Jews.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:27 PM
Ok, so it was in poor taste. But the direct translation actually works in the context of the exchange. People should really lighten up. I am Jewish and I take no offense to that, and considering that Best is Jewish himself, it makes the comment that much more tolerable. Just my two cents.
Posted by: Anon | December 17, 2007 01:29 PM
He even looks like a Nazi
http://www.llgm.com/stephenbest/
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:29 PM
It's got nothing to do with who is Jewish and who isn't. The Jews don't own anti-Nazi sentiments and don't get to be particularly offended by a "Seig Heil". Both my Christian grandfathers fought the Nazi's for this country, thank you very much, not for the descendents of Abraham. I find Best's statement offensive as an American.
Posted by: Rick | December 17, 2007 01:29 PM
I think it's funny.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:31 PM
1:26 makes an interesting point; I suppose he should be thankful he replied-all to a all-lawyers-US list, and not an all-lawyers-world list. Would he have faced criminal liability in Germany?
Posted by: Anon. | December 17, 2007 01:31 PM
1:27(1) was going along just fine until that last paragraph. *Sigh*.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:31 PM
It's got nothing to do with who is Jewish and who isn't. The Jews don't own anti-Nazi sentiments and don't get to be particularly offended by a "Seig Heil". Both my Christian grandfathers fought the Nazi's for this country, thank you very much, not for the descendents of Abraham. I find Best's statement offensive as an American.
Posted by: Rick | December 17, 2007 01:32 PM
1:25, you're right.
It's one thing to leak bonus information, but info that makes your firm look bad?? That's another.
Posted by: Anon | December 17, 2007 01:32 PM
Don Imus to 127!!11!!1!!!
Posted by: bucktooth fred | December 17, 2007 01:32 PM
Mr. Best was also called on the carpet a few years ago for surfing inappropriate sites from his work computer. Serious
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:33 PM
1. American Heritage Dictionary - nap·py 1 (nāp'ē) Pronunciation Key
adj. nap·pi·er, nap·pi·est
Having a nap; fuzzy: a nappy carpet.
Often Offensive - Tightly curled or coiled. Used of hair.
2. Obviously the Chinese restaurant joke is offensive not because of its descriptive content, but its underlying normative content, i.e. that Eastern ideas of eating are barbaric.
3. I don't see why he has to share the exact same heritage as all the other victims in order to make fun of the victimizer or to belittle the suffering the victims felt. You only have to be a member of the victimized class.
4. The only group I can see this offending is the Germans. And who cares about that? Not me.
Posted by: 1:27...shut up. | December 17, 2007 01:34 PM
forget what Best said, I'm pissed about those assholes at Dewey, ... however, them Chinese do make a great sweet and sour poodle.
Posted by: Ed | December 17, 2007 01:35 PM
Maybe if they gave people car rides home last week, the leaker might not have felt the need to pass on this bit of news.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:35 PM
1:26 makes an interesting point; I suppose he should be thankful he replied-all to a all-lawyers-US list, and not an all-lawyers-world list. Would he have faced criminal liability in Germany?
Posted by: Anon. | December 17, 2007 01:36 PM
1:19,
Thanks for the sarcastic congrats douchebag. I went to UT Law and I make comments like that all the time. Unlike you liberal douchebags, we don't get out panties all tied up in a knot when someone makes a joke.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:36 PM
1:26 makes an interesting point; I suppose he should be thankful he replied-all to a all-lawyers-US list, and not an all-lawyers-world list. Would he have faced criminal liability in Germany?
Posted by: Anon. | December 17, 2007 01:36 PM
lighten up you turds. why are lawyers so terrible? so you're offended for 5 minutes. who f'ing cares? if other people werent egging you on and making you feel like you should be offended, you wouldnt care. does it affect your life? not really. move on and collect your bonus check in feb, which is what you really care about.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:36 PM
How do you know the leaker sent it directly to Lat?
I wouldn't be surprised if someone sent it to a few friends.... who sent it to a few friends.... who sent it to Lat.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:37 PM
1:26 makes an interesting point; I suppose he should be thankful he replied-all to a all-lawyers-US list, and not an all-lawyers-world list. Would he have faced criminal liability in Germany?
Posted by: Anon. | December 17, 2007 01:37 PM
1:26:
Ausgelassen!
Posted by: DL Frankfurt Assoc. | December 17, 2007 01:37 PM
im not chinese but i would eat dog. so why is it so wrong to say that some chinese do this?
and don't mormons believe that the devil and jesus are brothers?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:39 PM
I think he was just trying to make a joke and didnt really mean any harm. just bad judgment.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:40 PM
1:32, you can't be serious. you are offended b/c your grandfather fought in WWII?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:44 PM
Who cares -- people need to lighten up. I'm Jewish and I couldn't care less. Obviously the guy was trying to make a joke. That it wasn't funny doesn't mean that the firm needs to be subjected to hours of sensitivity training. People are too easily "offended" these days.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:45 PM
1:36: You make jokes like that to your whole firm all the time? Really? And if you don't, why don't you? Your answer is why it's appropriate to make fun of this guy.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:46 PM
When did writing bad German become so offensive?
Posted by: A. Person | December 17, 2007 01:46 PM
1:34,
As for #1, I defy you to find me another adjective commonly used to describe the type of hair of people African ancestry. ANY word in the English language (regardless of neutral connotation) can be used in an "offensive" manner if the person stating it is trying to be offensive. "Nappy" is, generally speaking, the most accepted term to describe tightly curled/coiled hair.
As for #2, you -- like many ultra-sensitive people, are reading beyond the lines. Who are you to say that the "chinese restaurant" comment *really* was saying that Eastern ideas of eating are barbaric. You *yourself* would have to think Eastern ideas of eating were barbaric to even make such a connection.
As for #3, in my mind, him being a member of one victimized class doesn't make his statments "OK" for everybody else.
As for #4, you're just a racist.
Posted by: 1:27 | December 17, 2007 01:46 PM
Isn't "Best" actually a rough translation of "uber alles?"
(Actually, I worked with Mr. Best many years ago -- looking at his picture now, the years have not been kind).
Posted by: Al Anon | December 17, 2007 01:46 PM
In re nappy:
I think it is difficult to evaluate the offensiveness of Imus' word choice without considering that the full phrase was "nappy-headed hos."
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:47 PM
Man, I wish that this would have happened and written about during OCI. I wasn't at all interested in interviewing with either Dewey or LeBoeuf, but that was before I saw how funny these guys are. Had I seen this in time, I TOTALLY would have tried to at least land a callback. Hilarious! (Now if we could get a hold of the lyrics to that song that got them in trouble in 2003...)
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:48 PM
People at my high school used to salute Nazis and then remind everyone of their Jewish heritage all the time. It was no big deal.
Posted by: FRAT STUD | December 17, 2007 01:49 PM
1:47,
I agree that "nappy-headed hos" is offensive since (a) nappy-headed was used to modified "hos", which is no doubt offensive; and (b) Imus intended to be offensive when he said it.
But taking the word nappy out of the offensive context, I don't think referring to someone as "nappy" or "nappy-headed", by itself is offensive.
Posted by: 1:27 | December 17, 2007 01:52 PM
I thought it was funny when it got sent out this morning. I mean, better to err on the side of taking antisemitism too seriously than to be flippant about it, but... it was kind of funny.
And, y'know, whenever anyone says anything related to Germany, I think some kind of Nazi joke is in order. Means we haven't forgotten.
OHH! And he brings up teh 'never forget'...
Posted by: Liberal Jew D&L Assoc | December 17, 2007 01:53 PM
1:27 is a racist, but he won't figure it out until in about 5 years he mistakenly presses reply-all and his boss makes him send out a firm-wide apology letter.
after some reflection, he'll realize his grampa dismissively calling all black people 'boy' was kind of racist too.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:53 PM
Well, if anyone files a lawsuit against them, we know that S&C will take the case....
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:53 PM
FS - you've just cemented your reputation as a very big LOSER with that last one.
Congrats.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:55 PM
1:17- Most Chinese people residing in America do not eat dog from time-to-time. "Dog-eating" is not a common practice -- it is similar to the sterotype of southerners who eat racoons. It is absolutely offensive to assume that all Chinese people do or would consume puppies.
Posted by: Anon | December 17, 2007 01:56 PM
i would assume germans would be insulted as well because of his automatic association of german speakers and the german language with nazis.
Posted by: anon | December 17, 2007 01:57 PM
It figures that the partner who wrote that email is a Texan.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:57 PM
I thought it was funny.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:59 PM
Maybe this is why it's not LeBoeuf & Dewey...
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:00 PM
1:25(2) has the most hilarious comment of all time. Yeah, buddy, we're all soooo loyal to our firms, 'cause they're totally loyal to us associates. We're all just a big happy family. You know, like the Mansons.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:00 PM
Last March, the firm issued an apology after the Law Journal reported that at a Jan. 31, 2003, annual dinner, the firm had parodied the closing of its Hong Kong office with a version of "Hello Dolly" retitled "The Dirge of Long Duck Dong," an apparent reference to the stereotyped Chinese exchange student in the movie "Sixteen Candles."
The song said the seven-lawyer office, which closed at the end of March 2003, was "chow mein" and was getting "the gong."
"You were the firm's folly," the song continued, "and now we so solly to be cutting off your source of livelihood."
The black-tie annual dinner and its anonymously penned parodies were a longstanding tradition at the firm.
Posted by: Dewey's Song | December 17, 2007 02:01 PM
This has absolutely nothing to do with race! Stop crying racism and trying to play the race card! Isn't that Lat's knee-jerk response to any black person's complaint about anything? So let's just make the knee-jerk response to any complaint about anything.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:03 PM
Last March, the firm issued an apology after the Law Journal reported that at a Jan. 31, 2003, annual dinner, the firm had parodied the closing of its Hong Kong office with a version of "Hello Dolly" retitled "The Dirge of Long Duck Dong," an apparent reference to the stereotyped Chinese exchange student in the movie "Sixteen Candles."
The song said the seven-lawyer office, which closed at the end of March 2003, was "chow mein" and was getting "the gong."
"You were the firm's folly," the song continued, "and now we so solly to be cutting off your source of livelihood."
The black-tie annual dinner and its anonymously penned parodies were a longstanding tradition at the firm.
Posted by: Dewey's Song | December 17, 2007 02:03 PM
The real question in all of this: Where's le boeuf?
HI-O!
Posted by: The Writers' Guild is Back! | December 17, 2007 02:04 PM
Firm loyalty? Yeah, as dozens have been boxing their stuff to lateral out after their year-end bonus arrives... "loyal."
Posted by: anon | December 17, 2007 02:06 PM
its more offensive to germans that jews imo
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:06 PM
1:26 - I didn't know they had an office in Kentucky.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:08 PM
it's more stupid than offensive
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:09 PM
Whoever created this ridiculous gossip website: I really don't care how you generally spend your time, but associating Dewey & LeBoeuf with NAZIsm is unacceptable. Do you have any regard for what you post or who your offend on this cheap, third-rate gossip site? You are not only demonstrating a lack of knowledge about Dewey, and your own abundant amount of free time, you are also making light of the Holocaust and NAZIsm.
Posted by: Raj Grewal | December 17, 2007 02:10 PM
And thus marks the very instant when ATL, properly chastised, wholly changed its ways, became completely serious and put its head down to work, work, work to become a *second*-rate blog.
Later, commenters would remember this as the moment they paused, looked up from their monitors and experienced a wave of regret and shame, followed by two full weeks of introspection concluding with a solemn vow to become better people forever.
Posted by: I Hate the Guy Who Hates Billy Merck | December 17, 2007 02:14 PM
1:27/1:46, I believe the word is "kinky."
kinky
Main Entry:
kinky Listen to the pronunciation of kinky
Pronunciation:
\ˈkiŋ-kē\
Function:
adjective
Inflected Form(s):
kink·i·er; kink·i·est
Date:
1844
1: closely twisted or curled
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:15 PM
This is ridiculous. I'm Jewish and have never faced any problem or discrimination of any kind at LeBoeuf. The statement was made by one lawyer and should not reflect on the firm as a whole. I've worked at other places, and LeBoeuf - by far - has the most respectful, polite partners.
Posted by: D&L associate | December 17, 2007 02:15 PM
Nice touch Stephen A. Best, naming yourself "Raj" covers your tracks quite nicely. After all, a Nazi/white supremacist would never use a non-white name as an moniker.
Posted by: Naveet Suzuki-Hernandez | December 17, 2007 02:16 PM
im not chinese but i would eat dog. so why is it so wrong to say that some chinese do this?
and don't mormons believe that the devil and jesus are brothers?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 01:39 PM
-----------------------------------------------
This could be my favorite post of all time. Clearly, if 1:39 would do it, it can't be wrong to say it.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:19 PM
The pictures are hilarious. First rate, Lat!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:20 PM
Move Zig! For Great Justice!
Posted by: Pius XXX | December 17, 2007 02:28 PM
I didn't even know the term was offensive. But I'm not top tier either.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:29 PM
Douche firm merges with Bag firm and...these are the results.
Posted by: Anon | December 17, 2007 02:30 PM
2:15 is right. If Imus had called them "kinky hos" instead, it would have been just fine.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:30 PM
Of course, comments that Lat finds offensive to his ethnic background are considered an affront to all of humanity, while anytime something happens to blacks they need to just get over it.
How shocking.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:32 PM
For the record, the word is spelled "sieg" not "zieg."
Posted by: German Professor | December 17, 2007 02:35 PM
Why the pictures of dead puppies?!?!?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:35 PM
I pity the fools who think comments about hurting dogs are funny.
Posted by: Mr. TTT | December 17, 2007 02:36 PM
Why the pictures of dead puppies?!?!?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:36 PM
is FS the one they say looks like mango?
Posted by: the dewey underbelly | December 17, 2007 02:37 PM
Why the pictures of dead puppies?!?!?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:39 PM
the email is obviously a joke. whether or not it was funny or what, there's nothing to indicate that the sender holds any prejudicial views
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:39 PM
Well, that apology is too little too late. My holidays are RUINED.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:40 PM
is FS the one they say looks like mango?
Posted by: the dewey underbelly | December 17, 2007 02:40 PM
FS: is that you, mango?
Posted by: the dewey underbelly | December 17, 2007 02:41 PM
He should be fired. This is not the first time that the firm has had issues with him.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:41 PM
Lat's site wouldn't exist if it weren't for people emailing items to him that are not in a Biglaw firm's best interest. Do you think firms really want salary and bonus information to be posted on the internet? Stories about moronic summer associates, botched recruiting events, who hooked up at the latest holiday party, etc.? Threads about perks that quickly become firm-bashing sessions?
Posted by: get real | December 17, 2007 02:43 PM
2:41, please elaborate.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:44 PM
Siegfried & Roy Heil!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:45 PM
Although he does it using the tone of a mid-tantrum crybaby, Raj does have a point about Lat's headline, which is really more offensive as the story it is about.
An uninformed and insensitive associate with horribly bad judgment is one thing - Public suggestion that group is "a bunch of nazis" is IMHO much worse.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:45 PM
Although he does it using the tone of a mid-tantrum crybaby, Raj does have a point about Lat's headline, which is really more offensive than the story it is about.
An uninformed and insensitive associate with horribly bad judgment is one thing - Public suggestion that group is "a bunch of nazis" is IMHO much worse.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:46 PM
2:44 - let's just say, he has had issues with certain commentary
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:46 PM
2:44 - let's just say that he has had issues with certain commentaries ...
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:47 PM
1:29/1:32 - I find you offensive as a smurf.
Posted by: Papa Smurf | December 17, 2007 02:54 PM
lol, its f-in funny! and he was a partner! Making it twice as funny. Did you see his picture? Jewish or not, he may as well be wearing a pointy white hat. I say he's "transferred" by next week.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:57 PM
They court drunk-driving suits, email Nazi salutes
You know, I read it in a third-rate gossip blooogg...
D-D-D-Dewey and the Beef
Posted by: I Hate the Guy Who Hates Billy Merck | December 17, 2007 02:58 PM
1:27,
The word "nappy" (as used from one black person to another) is often considered to be offensive.
#1, black people have different hair textures, but I think the word you're looking for might be kinky. In reality, this type of hair just a mass of tiny curls (as curly as it gets) so I'm not sure why we need to use special words to describe it.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:58 PM
Why don't the puppies have health care?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 02:59 PM
my holidays are ruined and the only cure is a raise.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:00 PM
wrong. the only cure is more cowbell.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:04 PM
Re: the headline, it's a tongue in cheek nod to the commonly used slang phrase, used to suggest people are fascists, dictatorial, controlling, etc.
Google "bunch of Nazis" in quotes - you get thousands of results.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:05 PM
I pity the fools who think that calling someone a bunch of Nazis is worse than using Nazi phrases over email in a conversation with German counsel.
Posted by: Mr. TTT | December 17, 2007 03:07 PM
As a Jew, I have to admit I say incredibly offensive things about Jews on a somewhat routine basis. It's a huge perk of being one of the Tribe. However, sometimes I'll say something horrible about Jews and forget that I'm in public and that the people around me have no idea that I'm actually a somewhat religious Jew that's merely joking around. So then I start loudly proclaiming, "I can say that, I'm a Jew" - which only draws more attention to my retarded comments and leaves me embarassed and shamed (except inside I'm laughing hysterically at my wit...and the fact that the Christians don't know that we are still stealing their children and drinking their blood at Passover).
Posted by: HBIC | December 17, 2007 03:09 PM
2:03(2). Wow. That is truly incredible. I can't believe somebody gave clearance for that.
As for the "I'm Jewish, and I'm not offended" sentiment, clearly there's a reason such language is criminalized in Germany. Sure, a Jewish associate with a comfy job at a law firm in NYC may have no problem with the language, but a Holocaust survivor or a Jew living in Germany may feel differently.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:13 PM
To "posted at 1:27":
What the hell does Imus' comments have to do with this story?
But for your information, the general and accepted terms used to refer to african hair include "kinky" and "coiled."
"Nappy -headed" is generally not acceptable. This is because it is more often than not used in a deragotry manner. I guarantee you that 9 out 10 black women anywhere in the world, aware of how the term is generally used, will find it offensive, especially when used in conjunction with the term "hos".
I wouldn't crucify someone for calling me a "nappy-headed anything, but I would certainly think the person referring to me as such was unexposed and probably insensitive.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:15 PM
zeig heil!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:16 PM
Come on -- lets here more info about the partners caught with "inappropriate website visits."
I mean, getting caught with porn at work ....
Give us lowly associates a chance to laugh.
Posted by: Lowly Associate | December 17, 2007 03:18 PM
I think he became Jewish just because of the jokes.
Posted by: Seinfeld | December 17, 2007 03:19 PM
A Proskauer partner referred to Southeast Asians as Monkeys during a summer associate presentation. He's still employed...
Posted by: Proskauer Associate | December 17, 2007 03:20 PM
Give me a break--the guy was just having a little fun at the expense of almost every other race but his own. Since when has that been a problem?
"Sieg Heil" to all law firms in 2008!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:22 PM
3:22 - you are a moron
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:25 PM
3:13 - Clearly, when language is criminalized, it's for always for a good reason, and not, say, to hide latent antisemitism behind cosmetic changes to what remains an oppressive society. Clearly.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:28 PM
Mr. Best would have been in serious trouble with the upper management if he had made a pink triangle joke -- all you LLGMers know what I mean.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:39 PM
too soon? yeah, too soon
Posted by: too soon | December 17, 2007 03:40 PM
3:13, hit up legal methods again dude. i think there's a complete sentence in there somewhere, but i may be mistaken.
Posted by: anon | December 17, 2007 03:43 PM
3:28: Good reason or nefarious reason, it's still loaded language.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:45 PM
3:28, hit up legal methods again dude. that sentence is garbage.
Posted by: anon | December 17, 2007 03:45 PM
Since when did it become a crime to speak bad German?
God rest JFK.
Posted by: Fordham Pius XII | December 17, 2007 03:48 PM
i can't wait for someone to call out the jerkoff who used the word "dude" when correcting other people's grammar. it's a blog, dude. clearly.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:54 PM
After reading about this incident, I don't think I'll even go near that law firm.
I'm Chinese so I'm not offended by the Chinese dog joke. It's true that people eat dogs in China - a lot of older people in Asia do eat dogs from time to time but its disgusting to the younger generation.
Whatever view some bigots in the firm hold toward Asians or Jews or Germans is fine. First Amendment rights and all....but the utter stupidity that is displayed in the email is ridiculous.
What an idiot. Don't touch a blackberry if you don't know how to use one.
Posted by: 1L | December 17, 2007 03:54 PM
Those aren't dead puppies, they are sleeping.
My fingers are crossed that this site won't ever stoop so low as to mock the weak and defenseless . . . .
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:55 PM
to 3:54
Why leave the "Hof" off of your signature today? Feeling blue?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 03:57 PM
Rumor is that innappropriate comments are just par for the course for this Best guy....but hadn't heard the one about surfing porn sites at work. Precious.
Posted by: anon | December 17, 2007 03:59 PM
It translates "hail to victory"? Isn't that the rough equivalent of "you go, girl"? Hm, I'd have read it as "great job, team" and not have taken any offense.
Mental note to ask for a rewrite of the Washington Redskins' fight song ("Hail to the Redskins, Hail to victory, Braves on the warpath, Fight for old DC"). Oh and the terms Redskins and Braves might need some work, too...
Thanks for the education.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 04:04 PM
Just don't mention the War!
Posted by: John Cleese | December 17, 2007 04:11 PM
To whoever described me as a mid-tantrum crybaby, thanks for at least backing up my comment. I've had my cookies and milk and time to settle down. And to ATL: let's be clear, you used a picture of Adolf Hitler to get increased website hits.
Posted by: Raj Grewal | December 17, 2007 04:13 PM
your arguments lacks logical suspect or your value systems are misplaced. First you argue that you dont care about the racist nature of the remark but you do care about the stupidity of teh remark. This implies that you rather work with racist people rather than stupid people. If you disagree with this statement than your only other logical out is that while the racism of a single member of a firm does not reflect the general character of the firm as whole, the stupidity of a single member is indeed indicative of the firm. Eitherway, I suggest a lesson in logical reasoning. Good luck on your first year in law!
Posted by: 1L's argumen seems a bit weak... | December 17, 2007 04:16 PM
Why must we all act like characters from a J. K. Rowling story, mortally afraid to speak certain words, lest we make the tragic mistake of offending someone's tender sensibilities?
I realize 1st Amendment protections don't apply to nongovernment action, but the spirit of the 1st Amendment is to protect people's ability to speak freely, without fear of reprisal for saying something unpopular among powerful interests.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 04:17 PM
why do you post dead puppy pics with Dewey LeBeef article?! That is guilt by implication
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 04:18 PM
why do you post dead puppy pics with Dewey LeBeef article?! That is guilt by implication
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 04:19 PM
"Mr. Best would have been in serious trouble with the upper management if he had made a pink triangle joke -- all you LLGMers know what I mean."
??? Please elaborate.
Posted by: Rick | December 17, 2007 04:19 PM
WHAT IS WITH DEAD PUPPY POST?!?!
LAT YOU ARE SICK!?!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 04:19 PM
I have to lodge a formal complaint... why Hitler looking so angry? Really.. you couldn't find a more respectful picture? This site is very biased.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 04:23 PM
I can't believe the anger and fuhrer generated over this. I feel sorry for the guy, and wish him all the best.
Posted by: anonymouse | December 17, 2007 04:23 PM
Michigan's fight song is thus offensive.
Posted by: Resolved | December 17, 2007 04:23 PM
What do you mean by saying innappropriate comments are par for the course for Mr. Best? Is there more of this nonsense?!?!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 04:27 PM
Rick
s/he means that LGBT@LLGM was well- represented.
Posted by: TTT-girl | December 17, 2007 04:27 PM
4:16, I suggest re-taking grade school English to learn how to communicate coherently.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 04:28 PM
i figured that was coming. wrote that on the fly. pretty sure scoring perfect on every single standardized exam that tested my English exempts me from having to retake grade school English.
Posted by: response | December 17, 2007 04:32 PM
THE PUPPIES AREN'T DEAD. They are napping. And they are very cute.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 04:34 PM
Was Best in fact trying to mock Nazism by punning on "Hail the Goat" ("Zieg[e] Heil")? I'm being serious -- he knows German well enough to translate it; "Sieg Heil" with an S is a famous phrase; therefore, if he really thought that "Victory" was spelled "Zieg" instead of "Sieg", that would be a remarkable mistake. It's likely he intentionally wrote "Zieg[e]" ("Goat") instead of "Sieg" ("Victory")
Posted by: anon | December 17, 2007 04:38 PM
racists... i'm glad i didn't accept their ttt offer
Posted by: anon | December 17, 2007 04:39 PM
Having worked there, I can tell you that one remark like that is sorta funny, but having lived through years of this idiocy I've tired of Dewey's "cuteness" when it comes to racist remarks.
This isn't a one-off.
Ask partners at Dewey about the entertainment during the annual dinner the year they were closing their Hong Kong office. Specifically, ask about the parody of the song "Hello Dolly"! It makes the "don't let the puppy get too close to the Chinese restaurant" remark seem tame.
And it's not the racism that bugs me, it's the stupidity, over and over and over again that I find appalling.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 04:48 PM
CLOSE THE COMMENTS ON THIS POST: DEAD PUPPIES, HITLER, JEWS -- THIS IS OUTRIGHT SLANDER ON AN ESTABLISHED AND TOP FIRM
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 05:09 PM
Slander = spoken
Libel = written
silly
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 05:16 PM
5:09 - Thanks, mom
Posted by: tom dewey | December 17, 2007 05:19 PM
People hunt squirrels in Kentucky and eat their brains. Some folks there even fill their freezers with squirrel. The New Yorker had a whole article on this about a year or two ago.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 05:34 PM
I heard this comment was circulated intentionally to distract D&L associates and employees from the greater "no car" issue at tonight's holiday party. The walls of a certain midtown steakhouse will be buzzing tonight. Kudos to the partnership. I almost forgot I had to walk home across the Queensboro bridge uphill both ways after my drunken bender.
Posted by: Anon | December 17, 2007 05:52 PM
Mr Best seems to be the teflon partner. The silly e-mail snafu is nothing compared to all the sexual harrassment allegations in the D.C. office. Anyone know how much the firm had to pay those ~2 associates to go away?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 06:07 PM
4:38 Why would Best make a turn-of-phrase joke in German to Ferrara who obviously doesn't understand German (he did ask for a German translator, after all)?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 06:17 PM
Raj - Do you know how popular this website is? Do you know how established it is, and who its target readership is? Or are you just springing to the defense of the distressed image of your hostile-work-environment-providing firm?
4:17 - Whether or not the spirit of the first amendment is to protect unpopular speech from reprisals from powerful interests, it certainly isn't that you should be able to offend me with your speech and I shouldn't be able to complain about it with my speech. If you call me a kike I can call you a bigot without somehow intruding upon the spirit of free speech.
5:09 - Would it somehow be more acceptable to you if the firm weren't so darned established and top?
6:17 - How's junior high school treating you?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 06:37 PM
That email was repulsive. Can partners be fired?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 06:59 PM
Can't we all just get along????
Posted by: What the?!? | December 17, 2007 08:08 PM
boooooooriiing
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 08:28 PM
All corporate email systems should flash a big warning box on the screen before allowing a message to be sent via "reply all"
Posted by: anon | December 17, 2007 09:07 PM
this is absurd
Posted by: anonymous | December 17, 2007 10:37 PM
I like it raw! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVOCA1EoD_k
Can an old dirty bastard get some love? Peace!
Posted by: Second Best | December 17, 2007 10:58 PM
guys in my high school used to say 'hail the goat' all the time.
Posted by: frat stud | December 17, 2007 11:00 PM
One word: Schadenfreude. 'Nuff said.
Posted by: Frahnkunshteen | December 17, 2007 11:10 PM
This is so surprising because it is so ironic. Apparently Best's "Jewish heritage" was that his parents died at Auschwitz.
...
Apparently they fell out of the guard tower.
Suh-NAP!
Posted by: i think george carlin made this joke about pat buchanan | December 18, 2007 12:26 AM
Mr. Best's favorite bedtime lullaby:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QTMUI0RFmxo&feature=related
Posted by: anonymous | December 18, 2007 02:20 AM
guys used to day sieg heil all the time at jones day, and it was no big deal.
Posted by: your mom | December 18, 2007 03:10 AM
3:10, haa.
Posted by: anon | December 18, 2007 04:30 AM
I just read through this string and there are a lot of things concerns me. Mostly that when partners become partners they seem to be able to do or say ANYTHING (did everyone miss the Partner on the E.C. at Proskauer who comared East Indians to Monkeys!.. and had a history os harrassment...AND was a member of the E.C.!)
Not just Proskauer but the message seems to be... make a lot of money and treat people anyway you want... sad
Posted by: M. Andy | December 18, 2007 06:47 AM
All corporate email systems should flash a big warning box on the screen before allowing a message to be sent via "reply all"
The Dewey email system does. But now that the inept LeBoeuf IT people have taken over...
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 09:03 AM
What can I say? I like it raw. Can an ol' dirty bastitt get some love?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVOCA1EoD_k Holla!
Posted by: Raw Dawg | December 18, 2007 09:12 AM
This partner should be forced to perform in two girls, one cup == ala two girls, one anti-semitic partner and one cup
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 09:16 AM
DO NOT OPEN YOUTUBE LINK!! RAW DAWG WILL GET YOU FIRED
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 09:24 AM
The LeBoeuf corporate email system does warn you if you reply to all in Outlook, but this message was sent via Blackberry.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 09:29 AM
People make mistakes, and obviously this email was intended for one person as a joke. Lawyers are ready to castrate any attorney that makes any mistake. This guy apologized and that should be the end of it. Everyone needs to stop calling for his beheading!
Posted by: So Ridiculous | December 18, 2007 09:49 AM
i don't think anyone is calling for his beheading. it looks like a few bored junior associates are making fun of Mr. Best, one of D&L's best litigators and a leader in the white collar defense bar, for writing a joke and hitting "reply all" to it. Beyond that, who cares?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 10:11 AM
I agree. Let it go already. I sure other folks in other firms have done some stupid things.
Posted by: What is the world coming to??? | December 18, 2007 10:12 AM
I'm dying to know what Best is like. If he's a good guy, then I feel kind of bad. If he's an asshole who berates associates for their mistakes, then I'm really happy this happened to him.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 10:24 AM
No need to feel bad for him.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 10:35 AM
We commit the sin of racism when we pre-judge an individual person based on a stereotype we hold due to his or her race, ethnicity, religion or nationality. The puppies comment is racist because it is based on a stereotype that chinese serve dogs as food, which is regarded negatively in US culture. While the Sieg Heil comment might be insensitive to jews and others because it is a reminder of the holocaust, it is racist because it reflects a stereotypical view of Germans, ie that any mention of something having to do with Germany calls to mind the nazis. Many people clearly hold the view that people of German ancestry are not entitled to be free of such pre-judgement because the racist sins of their ancestors are so grave. This is hypocritical. Every human individual is entitled to be judged by his or her own actions, and the content of his or her own character, not a preconception someone has based on irrelevent characteristics.
And I have no German ancestry, in case that matters to anyone.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 10:57 AM
Hey, 10:57 am, "German" is not a race, unless you subscribe to Hitler's views.
Posted by: U.N. Owen | December 18, 2007 11:37 AM
Don't feel badly for him. He is not known as a nice guy. My friends at LLGM say that these types of comments...and not just against Jews and Germans, but women, african-americans, etc. are typical for this guy. They even say he has papered his office with pics of his and his "gang" with fake gang signals. Lovely.
Amazing partners can get away with this stuff time and time again!
Posted by: anon | December 18, 2007 02:05 PM
At least if one is going to use German, make it correct. It is Sieg Heil. (Means, Hail, victory)!
Posted by: Nemo Non | December 18, 2007 02:18 PM
2:05 -- what friends? name names or STFU
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 02:21 PM
2:05: Wow. The gang thing is unreal. What a jackass.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 02:56 PM
The problem with this message board: the majority of comments are being posted by two or three disgruntled LLGM associates who have never set foot in a courtroom and will never make partner. Now, get back to your document review.
Posted by: ---------- | December 18, 2007 03:17 PM
The problem with this message board: the majority of comments are being posted by two or three disgruntled LLGM associates who have never set foot in a courtroom and will never make partner. Now, get back to your document review.
Posted by: ---------- | December 18, 2007 03:19 PM
I heard that Dewey offended every protected group of people at one time or another during its summer activity parody show. Many law students who summered at Dewey reinterviewed as 3ls on the basis of this behavior.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 03:25 PM
Look at the new partners announcement, and please indicate who there has set foot in a courtroom. Is there even a clerk, let alone a trial lawyer? Regardless, Steve isn't a bad guy. How about all the sleeping around in the ex-Howrey and Thelen teams, in contrast? That sounds like a truly hostile work environment to me. Does the firm pay for the luxury associate mistress junkets, or is it billed to clients? Either way, it sounds like the kind of thing that could get you disbarred.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 03:33 PM
Having worked with Steve, it's clear that most of these comments are posted by disgruntled employees that don't like the man. He is a good man, and a great and well-respected attorney. Mention of "sexual harassment" suits and inappropriate internet sites is total BS. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. He's definitely a character, but has never treated anyone in the LGBT differently from others at LLGM (this I know for a fact). He made a simple mistake, so what...worse things have been done/said at law firms, so don't bring this conversation down to another level by implying he's engaged in other inappropriate activity. Not the case at all.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 03:49 PM
Having worked with Steve, it's clear that most of these comments are posted by disgruntled employees that don't like the man. He is a good man, and a great and well-respected attorney. Mention of "sexual harassment" suits and inappropriate internet sites is total BS. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. He's definitely a character, but has never treated anyone in the LGBT differently from others at LLGM (this I know for a fact). He made a simple mistake, so what...worse things have been done/said at law firms, so don't bring this conversation down to another level by implying he's engaged in other inappropriate activity. Not the case at all. Oh - this crap about "fake gang signals" is hilarious - it's one photo of his friend making a funny gesture with his hand - his office is not "papered" by any means. Get a life associates - BACK TO DOC REVIEW you go!!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 03:51 PM
We're loving this at my firm ... you LLGM associates are such thin skinned candy asses ... we're now collecting money to buy each of you two feet of twine, so you can tie down your flapping labias.
Posted by: Skadden | December 18, 2007 04:07 PM
Skadden--Indeed. That's what happens when you name your firm after a Frenchman.
Posted by: Anon | December 18, 2007 04:12 PM
My favorite part is Chairman Davis's email: If any of you would like to talk through this traumatic event, please contact your Department Head. Right--actually, we'd like the day off to heal. We need closure.
Are you people for real? Guys: Buck up a little and show some grit ... god forbid humor ... and get back to work for your clients (whoever it is out there that is lame enough to hire you weak bastards to fight on their behalf).
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 04:21 PM
GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!!! Gee Whiz!!! Folks act like their respected firms are all peaches and cream. WHATEVER!!!! And for the folks that take time to make negative responses get back to work and be more productive. Same goes to the ones with the positive repsonse. Opinions are like a**holes....everyone has one.
Posted by: UGH!!!!! | December 18, 2007 04:28 PM
Raw Dawg don't wanna hurt no one, especially during this joyous season. I got no problem with fragile LLGM associates -- long as they got my money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VYz7gEBFCs
Keep billin' or Im'a put killer ants in your pants!
Posted by: Raw Dawg | December 18, 2007 07:18 PM
What a shame that your life is reduced to just being an opinion.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 18, 2007 09:28 PM
wow
Posted by: anonymous | December 19, 2007 12:08 AM
repsonse to 4:28: I agree that the situation should be left alone.
response to 9:28: Everyone here has issued an OPINION about what should be done in this situation. So this person's life is not reduced to an opinion. You just failed to read the fine line....