and...he's fat.

WOO HOO!

first to type "first!"

What an asshat for wearing an ascot

He looks more like a pimp than a prosecutor.

You forgot "Who gives a sh*t" in the poll.

I only wear an ascot while making sweet sweet love.

I had to look up what an ascot is.

If a female lawyer can wear a scarf around her shoulders, then this guy should be allowed to wear an ascot.

Dick Deguerin says, "If you're going to go to court, look like a lawyer." -- not some pompous jackass.

Guys in Washington, D.C. used to try stand out by wearing pompous neckware all the time. It was no big deal.

Who does he think he is Lex Luther?

An ascot seems like evening/socially formal attire rather than courtroom appropriate. But I've only ever seen them paired with a coat with tails (wedding party attire).

If a female lawyer can wear a scarf around her shoulders, then this guy should be allowed to wear an ascot.

Posted by: A.Non.E.Mous | January 9, 2008 04:10 PM

By that logic a male prosecutor should be able to wear a skirt to court as well?

Asshat.

doesn't an ascot count as a "necktie"?

what about those things that southern lawyers wear that's basically a rope?

the ascot is the finest choice in cravat. It takes a strong, confident man to pull of this look, but it is dashing. Think Cary Grant, Thurston Howell III, George Hamilton.

of course the judge was right to flip out. the superficialities of law -- like lawyers in suits or judges in robes or high ceilings in courtrooms -- are the only things that give law its legitimacy.

""If you're going to go to court, look like a lawyer." -- not some pompous jackass. "

How can you tell the difference?

Guys in my high school used to wear ascots to court all the time, it was no big deal.

4:14

Don't be dense. Skirts on women is proper business attire. Scarf around the shoulders is a deviation from proper women's business attire. The commenter was saying that if that deviation is tolerated, then the ascot should be tolerated as a slight deviation from proper men's business attire.

You're not very good at this "logic" thing.

Why is scarf on woman a deviation from proper attire? And around the shoulders? I'm not really sure what that is. The little silk scarves tied around the neck seems like the feminine version of a necktie.

Re southern lawyers - no, the rope is not proper courtroom attire. Do they really wear those to court?

He should have worn a neckerchief instead.

He should have worn an ascot made by Efthymios.

So you can wear an ascot to a formal dinner party, does that mean you can wear a tux to court? How about a kilt?

what about jockstrap over pantaloons...would that be proper court attire?

To 4:18--Especially when it's worn with a clasp that looks like a cow skull.

No one should wear an ascot, ever, anywhere, for any reason. End of the issue.

"doesn't an ascot count as a "necktie"?"

No, but it does count as revolting.

Hey Lat,

Playboy is not pornography, asshat.

I believe the southern rope thing is called a bolo tie

Reading the WSJ post, it sounds like the judge was more upset by the fact that he told this same prosecutor in the past to wear neckties and he refused to do so when appearing before the judge (though he would wear a necktie in front of a jury). It seems silly for the judge to care about an ascot, but it is not as silly for the judge to care about an attorney's decision to ignore the court's directives.

unless you are (1) a prince of the realm (2) the heir to an estate over $1B or (3) going to a costume party, an ascot is an absolute FASHION FAUX PAS.

"Are you mockin' me with that outfit?"

"No, judge, I'm not mocking you."

I've worn a cravat. The judge flipped.

Give fatty a break. How could he possibly button that collar? And any silk necktie would be instantly ruined by the rubbing of the stubble and sweat on his neck flabby neck skin against the delicate silk. He probably has on suspenders, elastic waist pants and velcro shoes, too. This is all about discrimination against fatties who cannot reasonably be expected to fit into non-fatty clothes.

The judge could be a total hypocrite. I bet he had on a black flowing robe -- figure camoflaging -- and God knows what, if anything, the judge was wearing under that robe.

Hilarious. I hate neckties anyway - nothing like wearing a tiny noose around one's neck.

I'll take a bolo tie any day, especially one with a cow skull and/or turquoise stones on it.

Only the Solicitor General should be able to get away with wearing anything resembling morning dress to a court appearance. Otherwise the wearer looks like an asshat and/or an escapee from an expensive, elaborately-staged wedding.

Frankly, I don't see what the problem is.

I agree with a prior poster that he is an "asshat" for wearing an ascot to court, but the judge is a bigger "asshat" for the way the situation was handled.

A good natured comment, like "forget your tie today Mr. Zie?" or other humorous retort could have conveyed the message without blowing things out f proportion--in other words making a national news story out of it.

When I was a young lawyer SF L & M judge Ira Brown (a tyrant) was notorious for upbraiding lawyers during the rainy season for wearing a rain coat to the podium. But a three hour lecture is a little anal retentive.

“This is an issue which I believe deals with the integrity of the court.", the judge claimed.

No, this is an issue which deals with the mental stability of the court.

Now, about the missing strawberries....

Seriously, how do you let yourself get that fat? At some point -- perhaps when the gullet that was once your chin droops down to the upper chest region -- don't you realize that it's time to get some exercise?

Part of the problem is that he's wearing his ascot too tight. He's got it cinched in there like an undershirt. It needs to poof out a little more to be truly pompous.

I rarely go to the yacht club without an ascot, blazer and a pair of crisply pressed trousers (skin always healthily tanned) Guys that hate on the ascot don't have the testicular fortitude to dazzle women with a little silk around the color. I own several ascots and I look incredible wearing one.

Pasty faced lawyers are bound to criticize the ascot wearing class, because lawyers are generally risk-averse, terrible dressers with bad skin who suffer from self-esteem and self-confidence issues.

Women dig my ties because they are nothing more than large arrows drawing their eyes to my package.

5:37, when one day you cross over the line from jackass to obese, I hope you will remember the hillarious comment you posted today

I once wore a merkin in court. It did not go over well. Maybe I should have worn it inside my pants.

Bolo-tie = Cowboys
Ascots = Ninja
Four-in-hand knot on leather tie = Pirate
Sarong = Indian
Suri = TomKat baby
Double windsor = white shoe firm

Braided Chest/Neck Hair = Priceless!

I captured the penguin. He was wearing an ascot at the time.

I suspect the argument went on for some time:
Judge: "What is that?" (pointing to attorney)
Attorney: My Neck?
Judge: No, around your neck.
Attorney: My other neck? Oh, my double chin?
Judge: No above that.
Attorney: My goatee?
Judge: NO! Below that.
Attorney: OH! My ascot.
Judge: Your "ass-cot"?
Attorney: AS-cot, It is a formal tie alternative.
Judge: looks more like a neck hammock to me.
Attorney: Excuse me?! Are you calling me fat?
Judge: You are obviously fat, I was merely highlighting your contemptable choice in neckwear.
Attorney: Are you telling me how to dress?
Judge: Watch your tone, counselor or you will be wearing a noose.
Attorney: You will be wearing a pearl necklace, judge!
Judge: ORDER! ORDER!

and on and on...

I wore a pearl necklace to court...

Double Windsor = no such thing

There is the Windsor and the half Windsor. I gentleman slap anyone I hear using the term "double Windsor".

"Ah, but maybe prosecutors don't want to take fashion cues from a porn publisher."

Or from Melvin Belli.

An ascot is officially a form of tie. This judge is an ass.

I think that 4:32 has it right. Is an ascot formal neckwear? Yes. Is it appropriate for court? No. Black tie (or white tie for that matter) is formal wear, but would not be appropriate for a court appearance. (see the film, Fracture).

I've researched this issue thoroughly by reviewing all of the postings to date. I have this comment:

4:21... is gay
5:03... almost won
6:12... is scary gay and far gayer than 4:21

6:54... wins hands down!

9:29 probably doesn't even know how to sail.

When you have three hot, blonde girlfriends and have banged every playmate since 1975, you have earned the right to wear whatever the fuck you want.

9:41... is that an acknowledgment that you are, in fact, 6:12 and gay? If so, it's cool, guys in my high school used to get on their sailfishes while wearing ascots and bang each other on the lake all the time, it was no big deal.

9:41... is that an acknowledgment that you are, in fact, 6:12 and gay? If so, it's cool, guys in my high school used to get on their sunishes while wearing ascots and bang each other on the lake all the time, it was no big deal.

What about the defendant in this case... could you imagine sitting there three hours while the prosecutor and judge argue about the technical differences between an ascot and a tie!?

Is it ok to wear a tie under your ascot? Is everyone then happy?

If the judge says "don't wear the ascot in my court" then don't wear the ascot. It's a matter of respect for the bench.

what regulatory body determines whether or not an ascot is an "officially" a form of tie, 9:34?

what regulatory body determines whether or not an ascot is an "officially" a form of tie, 9:34?

you snobby pompous Yankees really do think we all run around in bolo ties and cowboy boots, don't you? Get real.

"If the judge says "don't wear the ascot in my court" then don't wear the ascot. It's a matter of respect for the bench."

What if the judge tells you to be his prank monkey? Gotta respect the bench.