When Third Graders Attack

Yesterday, Georgia brought us our judge of the day and news from our favorite pro se litigant. Today, it brings us murderous third graders. From CNN:
A group of third-graders plotted to attack their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other items for the job and assigning children tasks including covering the windows and cleaning up afterward, police said Tuesday.
Photos of the assembled weapons are here.
We realize there is a tenuous legal connection here... but authorities at the school are citing privacy law and there will be charges!
The children, ages 8 to 10, were apparently mad at the teacher because she had scolded one of them for standing on a chair, Tanner said.Two of the students were arrested on juvenile charges Tuesday and a third arrest was expected. District Attorney Rick Currie said other students told investigators they didn't take the plot seriously or insisted they had decided not to participate.
"Some of the kids said, `We thought they were just kidding,"' Currie said. "Another child was supposed to bring a toy pistol, and he told a detective he didn't bring it because he thought he would get in trouble."
Currie said the children are too young to be charged as adults, and probably too young to be sentenced to a youth detention center.
Police seized a steak knife, steel handcuffs, duct tape, electrical and transparent tape, ribbons and the paperweight from the students, Tanner said.
Currie said he decided to seek juvenile charges against two girls, ages 9 and 10, who brought the knife and paperweight and an 8-year-old boy who brought tape. He said all three students faced charges of conspiracy to commit aggravated assault, and both girls were being charged with bringing weapons to school.
How the world has changed. When we were in the third grade, we sang the variation on "Joy to the World" that celebrated the teacher being dead, but we didn't actually mean it!
11 Students Plotted To Kill Third-Grade Teacher [Local 6 News via Drudge]
Police Release Photos of Weapons in Waycross Plot [First Coast News]
Cops: Third-graders arrested in teacher attack plot [CNN]
Third-graders grilled on plot to kill teacher [The Florida Times-Union]

Wow, thanks for posting yesterday's news!
ATL is going down the toilet.
I posted a link to this story at the 4:48 comment of the Judge of the Day: Marvin Arrington story, but I've got to say - it's even better when Kash posts.
It's a little late, but you still rock, Kash!
Douche, don't be a douche. I don't have time to surf for this mind of madness widely. I rely on Lat and Hill to surf it up and serve it (maybe a little cold) on a platter for me in one place. That may I don't have to read regional papers, Drudge, and other stupid stuff. I get one-stop stupid stuff shopping.
The photos, however, seem new, so great job there.
Similar story a month ago in CT:
http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/crime/x1300273481
The terrorists have already won.
...and the reasons I didn't go into education continue to pile up.
How does a third grader waive his or her right to an attorney?
Any such self-incriminating evidence will surely by thrown out.
Guys in my elementary school used to bring non-threatening, everyday items from daddy's garage storage unit to class all the time. It was no big deal.
teacher must have been a real bitch...
I can't tell you how relieved I am that the crazy-cloud seems to have drifted a bit north.
9:29 - hadn't heard about that one, thanks for the link. Anyone else have crazy kids to report?
How does an eight-year-old's mind even go there? That is truly terrifying. The CT one is even scarier b/c the kid threatened an even smaller kid. Jesus.
Maybe I was just a timid kid, but I obeyed pretty much any adult's word, especially authority figures like teachers, crossing guards, bus drivers, etc. Also, even if I wanted to kill somebody at that age, I knew that my parents would've killed me afterwards, so it wouldn't have seemed worth it.
I hear Bush wants to use anti-terrorism laws against them...
Free the Waycross Three!
10:00: Your comment made me laugh. I was, inexplicably, raised with so many stereotypes about Florida (I'm from New England). Any time something violent happened down there, my parents would just say "There's a problem in that state." Meanwhile, there are crazies everywhere!
I hated third grade. My teacher was a moron. Reading this story, for me, was like thinking of the perfect comeback after the other guy already left the room.
Little girls are NO joke. When my little sister was being bullied in elementary school, I showed up at her bus stop with a bunch of my friends (who were on some sort of college break) to talk some sense into them. Long story short, the little girls were all, "AND WHAT!? AND WHAT!? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, ABOUT IT!?" while the boys were all, "um, sorry, ma'am" and ran away. Shook me up a bit...they weren't scared AT ALL.
I think they should lock these kids up and throw away the key now, think about how much the public is going to cry when one of them really does kill someone in the future. This is an example of that whole, "did you have any indication they could be harmful" issue ...
This story makes kids today seem bad, but doesn't mention the subheadlined fact in the related Local 6 story (the first link after the post, http://www.local6.com/news/15757528/detail.html) showing that the children had good clean-up skills, which I find very important in a child.
It's about time the kids take a stand!!
Arrest their parents.
So now ATL reports on yesterday's mass media "news"...
Kash, leave ATL while you still have your good name. Please start your own blog/webcam site.
Please?
I thought kids actually loved their teachers until at least the 5th grade...it even looked that way in The Wire Season 4.
Again I ask, where are the parents? How do kids go from being mad at a teacher to plotting murder and clean up? Seriously, are the parents letting them watch CSI or something? This is so sad, I hope the parents get these kids some help, and maybe start parenting a little bit.
I agree with 10:08, when I was a kid I did what I was told, even if I didn't like it. It does not bode well for these children that getting reprimanded by a teacher for standing on a chair would lead them to plotting murder. Serious anger management issues.
put them in jail.
Isn't this type of behavior typical in the SOUTH? I always assumed people from the south are angry rednecks, am I wrong?
These kids are all future GULC students.
This is why I favor the juvenile death penalty. An ounce of prevention is worth a lifetime of government entitlements and future criminal acts.
what does the teacher look like? Third grade teachers are usually hot - except for the nun i had.
10:34,
I'm a parent of a second grader, and I think I'm doing a pretty good job (carefully controlled TV/games, church every week and we actually talk with him about the whole "love your neighbor" thing, swift and sure punishment for wrongdoing, etc.) and I can STILL see my kid doing this.
It's a combination of the culture (killing is okay, sez the TV) and the fact that little kids, even third graders, really don't understand what it means to hurt or kill someone. Kids at that age remain very egocentric--they understand that they don't like being hurt, but the idea that someone else might not like being hurt is still something of an abstract concept.
Which is not to say that the kids don't deserve punishment (you cannot even imagine what my wrath would be like if I caught my kid doing something like this) or even that the parents should maybe be required to attend a class or two. I'm just saying that even the kids of great parents screw up.
Hey, teacher, leave them kids alone.
The rule in my house was simple...If i ever cam home and told my parents that a teacher hit/yelled at me, when my parents were done hitting me, they MIGHT ask why.
the good old days when fear ruled.
11:16 - putting aside your narcissism for a moment (you’re a “great parent” huh?), maybe you should read that book they put in front of you every Sunday.
Exodus 21:23,25 - If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
Be careful never to "harm" you kid, or I could see him coming at you with a knife and handcuffs too. And really, who could blame him?
11:16: I appreciate your candor about your child and your unwillingness to say that your little angel wouldn't dream of doing such a thing. I agree that *some* little kids are sociopathic in that way. I don't think that egocentrism has the same effect on all eight-year-olds. I was a pretty shy, sensitive kid and I remember distinctly being horrified at the prospect of a person or animal being hurt - much more so than I am today, strangely. I couldn't bear to see somebody's feelings hurt - again, much more empathetic than I am now.
I just have a hard time saying that this is just kids being kids.
11:23, it doesn't sound like you've gotten to the end of that book yet.
Parents need to whup their kids more often. My parent's considered the teacher to be the surrogate parent during those school hours and as such demanded the same respect they did. Thus, any disrespect of the teacher usually meant a leather belt (or, since my parents are Mexican, a guarache lol) across my disrespectful ass! No timeouts, no go to your room without dinner, just unadulterated pain. That'll get your attention if you're a little punk. Oh, and bring back the wooden paddle with the air-relief holes! The P.E. teachers were always in charge of administering the paddlings haha, guess they had the best accuracy and swing!
12:34-
I agree with you on corporal punishment, but am curious about your phrasing. Since your "parents are Mexican", wouldn't that make you Mexican, too? As, in "we're Mexican-Americans" (or Latino or whatever).
Parents definitely need to go back to spanking their children. Every adult I know that wasn't spanked as a child grew up with serious issues. Children today are overmedicated and spoiled, and they don't respect adults any more. That needs to be corrected, and starting back spanking kids when they screw up is the first step.
This is exactly what happens when hippies grow up and are allowed to procreate.
um, 1:12, why, exactly, should adults be respected?
The persuasive kid that got the other 10 involved to kill the teacher on his/her behalf because he/she was made to stand on a chair...now there's someone that'll make partner in no time.
Adults need not go back to spanking their child...hitting your child is terrible. Trust me, I was slapped in the face A LOT as a child (and not for "good" reason) and I can assure you that I hate my father because of it. I will never forgive him for being heavy-handed. On the contrary, my mother never hit me and I was never disrespectful to her. I'm stopping the cycle of violence and will never hit my kids. That being said, you can discipline and instill respect in your children in other more healthy ways...my mother did.
2:05: So that children don't grow up to begin their sentences with "Um."
Elle-
Slapping is not spanking.
I'm sorry your father abused you that way.
First!!!!!
Some one stated the teacher must've been a real bitch.... Yeah this is the teachers fault.... right. A veteren teacher who is such a bitch she gives her whole life and devotes everyday to help these ungrateful little snots. They don't like it when they are told what and what not to do. You might hurt their feelings. Waaa Waa, Waa. This is exactly what is wrong in society today. These little shits should have been disciplined properly by their parents in the first place, ei. spanking, time- out, no t.v., no computer, games etc.... These kids are 7-10 years old. If you can't control them now what the hell are you going to do when they are 17-20 years old?